Why's it so Hard for Big Men to Develop an Offensive Game
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Its a lost art.. Nobody, especially college coaches, teaches post up moves extensively.
-I'm watchin' the development of Blake and DeAndre Jordan for the Clippers. They're just now comin' up on post moves in their 3rd-4th years in the league
-I'm watchin' the development of Blake and DeAndre Jordan for the Clippers. They're just now comin' up on post moves in their 3rd-4th years in the league
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Big men these days want to stay on the peremeter like some euros
Plus if a big man has any potnetial hes going first round and only gonna stay a year in college,Duncan had 4 years in college to learn post moves
Plus if a big man has any potnetial hes going first round and only gonna stay a year in college,Duncan had 4 years in college to learn post moves
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Coordination. You really have to work at it, at that height. A lot of those tall brehs dont like the game that much either, and dont like being that tall.
Chandler is weird tho, NBA players and coaches swear he has a good post up game and a lot of skills on offense. He just has no confidence.
Chandler is weird tho, NBA players and coaches swear he has a good post up game and a lot of skills on offense. He just has no confidence.
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is it really that hard to develop tho
Zone D has alot to do wit it too.
Because big guys are uncoordinated and clumsy. Chandler is one of the most natural moving big guys in the league, he should be better.
I blame AAU and guys coming out of college too early, the average rookie age of Robinson, Hakeem, Wilt, Duncan, Ewing and Kareem was almost 23 years old. I left out Shaq because he came out as a Sophomore, but even he was 20 as a rookie. These guys all got a lot of playing time and had their bodies mature as their games developed, they got to see what works and what doesn't in the post. I don't think it's any coincidence that the last great post player also happens to be someone that went to college for 4 years.
It's funny how a lot of the guys that came out of HS or entered the draft as freshmen almost all seem to have their breakout years around 21-23 years old, basically the time they'd be entering the league had they stayed 4 years. I like Andre Drummond a lot, but he's a perfect example of everything at work, on the AAU circuit he wanted to play like a SF and never really focused on developing a back to the basket game, despite having every tool you could think of to be a dominant post player. We can see how naturally good he is at the game right now in the NBA, imagine if he stayed 4 years at Uconn and learned how to play with his back to the basket just off trial and error of moves against guys smaller than himself. By his 2nd or 3rd year the entire offense @ Uconn would have revolved around him and he would have gained confidence in his offense. I mean, someone like Hibbert wouldn't have even been drafted had he tried to come out as a Fresh/Soph.
I maintain that the next great center will either come from Europe, or he'll be one of those undersized PF's that has a late growth spurt and shoots up to 7"0.
It's funny how a lot of the guys that came out of HS or entered the draft as freshmen almost all seem to have their breakout years around 21-23 years old, basically the time they'd be entering the league had they stayed 4 years. I like Andre Drummond a lot, but he's a perfect example of everything at work, on the AAU circuit he wanted to play like a SF and never really focused on developing a back to the basket game, despite having every tool you could think of to be a dominant post player. We can see how naturally good he is at the game right now in the NBA, imagine if he stayed 4 years at Uconn and learned how to play with his back to the basket just off trial and error of moves against guys smaller than himself. By his 2nd or 3rd year the entire offense @ Uconn would have revolved around him and he would have gained confidence in his offense. I mean, someone like Hibbert wouldn't have even been drafted had he tried to come out as a Fresh/Soph.
I maintain that the next great center will either come from Europe, or he'll be one of those undersized PF's that has a late growth spurt and shoots up to 7"0.
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that could be said for every player
Not really, Yao scored 25 a game against the zone, a skilled big guy can destroy the zone.
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a lot of these big guys never had to develop an offensive game, cuz they grew up always being the biggest cat on the court, and thus being able to dominate by grabbing boards and dunking missed shots. and that shyt don't fly in the NBA where EVERYONE is tall and skilled.
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Coordination is the #1 thing i look for at first to see if theyres any potential at all because some people are so uncoordinated it doesnt matter how hard they work on it
Mutombo for exmaple was alwyas gonna be awkward ofnfiesvely there was nothing that dude could have donn to be coordinated and graceful in the post
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props.
Nah, that's too easy of an excuse, cause Shaq, Wilt, Duncan, Hakeem, Robinson, Kareem were the biggest guys on the court growing up and they all developed offensive games. It comes down to who you look up to, you from the Chi, that kid Jahlil Okafor says his favorite player is Duncan but he looks up to Shaq and Dream as well -
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7uK08-jyU[/ame]
Biggest kid on the court, yet still has more moves than a lot of guys in the NBA.