Why would GOD design a 10 year old to be able to get Pregnant??

[MMS]

That's not a good analogy.
Science can't even prove the evidence of a god but it can give empirical evidence of how things are created which you can interpret as disproving God.

Matter cannot be created or destroyed as per the law of conservation of energy. Science has to reconsider that law before using the term “created”. Fashioned is a better term

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

It can be for you to test out. You won’t humble yourself to seek a God who wants a relationship with you. You think you have it all figured out.

Man, I already been there and done that. What my conclusion ended up being was me becoming atheist. It had nothing to do with being upset or mad or any emotion. Personally, I think it would be easy to believe because you would believe in eternal life after this one and the bad people would be punished.

 

[Reflected]

I was mad at the world’s treatment to black people, I was mad every time I have and would be discriminated covertly. I was mad at my father, I was mad at my frustration with girls in my age group, I was mad at some of my cousins and I was mad at things about my physical appearance I cannot change.
Literally external and internal dilemmas.

I see, personally, I can understand how being negatively impacted by religion or even just life can lead to agnosticism and atheism, but I typically don't categorize those people as atheists or agnostics. That's why I asked what lead you to atheism, because when I see people going from religious to atheist, and then back to religion, it strikes me as more of an internal conflict than anything else.

So when I say that, I mean to say:

Atheism ≠ Nihilism
Atheism ≠ Antitheism or Anti-religion
Atheism ≠ Misanthropy

Rather, atheism = negation of (p), with "p" being the proposition "x is real", and you can supplement "x" with whatever god, it could be Buddha, etc. But with that stance, which is a hard stance, you back the position with evidence or the lack of, which sways you towards the direction of affirming your position with modifications to the probability of your position being right.

That's what I would consider being atheist, but I can understand how the colloquial definition leads people to thinking that feeling alienated from religion or in life, can lead one to atheism. But there are inconsistencies in that kind of thinking so I push back against that idea of atheism because it does a disservice both ways. I would rather someone become atheist, through the steps above, than become atheist because they were wronged by religion or feel they were wronged by their creator. That's how I am across the board with things, I would rather someone agree with my political positions by establishing an ethical platform and build from there to reach positions on political matters, as opposed to feeling slighted by a party and blindly choosing the opposition. Moving in the other manner leads to a shaky foundation, thus the jumping from one stance on an important position to another.

 

[Rozay Oro]

Man, I already been there and done that. What my conclusion ended up being was me becoming atheist. It had nothing to do with being upset or mad or any emotion. Personally, I think it would be easy to believe because you would believe in eternal life after this one and the bad people would be punished.

Plenty testimonies of people going to Hell around the world. Why are you an atheist?

 

[BaldingSoHard]

So it is God's fault pedophiles have sex with 10yr olds?

All part of God's plan, so... yes?

 

[Rozay Oro]

I see, personally, I can understand how being negatively impacted by religion or even just life can lead to agnosticism and atheism, but I typically don't categorize those people as atheists or agnostics. That's why I asked what lead you to atheism, because when I see people going from religious to atheist, and then back to religion, it strikes me as more of an internal conflict than anything else.

So when I say that, I mean to say:

Atheism ≠ Nihilism
Atheism ≠ Antitheism or Anti-religion
Atheism ≠ Misanthropy

Rather, atheism = negation of (p), with "p" being the proposition "x is real", and you can supplement "x" with whatever god, it could be Buddha, etc. But with that stance, which is a hard stance, you back the position with evidence or the lack of, which sways you towards the direction of affirming your position with modifications to the probability of your position being right.

That's what I would consider being atheist, but I can understand how the colloquial definition leads people to thinking that feeling alienated from religion or in life, can lead one to atheism. But there are inconsistencies in that kind of thinking so I push back against that idea of atheism because it does a disservice both ways. I would rather someone become atheist, through the steps above, than become atheist because they were wronged by religion or feel they were wronged by their creator. That's how I am across the board with things, I would rather someone agree with my political positions by establishing an ethical platform and build from there to reach positions on political matters, as opposed to feeling slighted by a party and blindly choosing the opposition. Moving in the other manner leads to a shaky foundation, thus the jumping from one stance on an important position to another.

I respect that. Breh, life didn’t just become smoother. It wasn’t a moment of now that I have x and y, “Well how I dare I be mad at God” moment.

Black folks are still discriminated globally, I still get discriminated, I barely talk to my dad, I’m single and unsatisfied with just hook ups, I don’t have those cousins’ phone numbers nor know if they live in the same state as me, and I would still change things about my physical appearance if I could.

That’s not to say I am not grateful of my blessings.

I have seen the power of the name of Jesus for myself. If you truly want God to manifest in your life, humbly ask for that. This is all I can say breh. You can experience it for yourself.

 

[Rozay Oro]

All part of God's plan, so... yes?

Sin is not a part of God’s plan. Evil actions have nothing to do with God. Jesus has spoken on people harming children.

 

[BaldingSoHard]

Sin is not a part of God’s plan.

Now I'm no bible scholar, but doesn't the bible say we're born into something called "Original Sin"?

If so, seems like God needs to amend his plan.

 

[Rozay Oro]

Now I'm no bible scholar, but doesn't the bible say we're born into something called "Original Sin"?

If so, seems like God needs to amend his plan.

He did make a plan but you decided to reject it and him. Too many testimonies and nikkas like me trying to warn you cocky nikkas.

 

[Disclosure]

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Plenty testimonies of people going to Hell around the world. Why are you an atheist?

You need something more solid than testimonies. Our minds are very powerful and we can convince ourselves into believing extraordinary things that defy logic if our internal bias leads that way.

History and science doesn't line up with the Bible. To really believe in God and all what comes with that you really have to turn a blind eye to all of the evidence that science has proven about life on earth. All evidence of God I have seen is wanting to believe and having faith in something that you can't see feel or hear

 

[Reflected]

I respect that. Breh, life didn’t just become smoother. It wasn’t a moment of now that I have x and y, “Well how I dare I be mad at God” moment.

Black folks are still discriminated globally, I still get discriminated, I barely talk to my dad, I’m single and unsatisfied with just hook ups, I don’t have those cousins’ phone numbers nor know if they live in the same state as me, and I would still change things about my physical appearance if I could.

That’s not to say I am not grateful of my blessings.

I have seen the power of the name of Jesus for myself. If you truly want God to manifest in your life, humbly ask for that. This is all I can say breh. You can experience it for yourself.

I don't have a problem with people being religious, I only have a problem with people using the political arm to enforce it on others. Hypothetically speaking, if religion and a belief in something higher brings you more joy than denying it ever could, then being in line with my moral objectives, which is to improve overall well-being, so be it, be religious, I would only ask that you don't impede the happiness of others in the process. And that's not saying you do harm others, I'm speaking in general.


Regarding your last sentence, I'm a hard determinist, bro. If anything, the biases that spring from that kind of thinking would be too strong for me to properly accept that kind of experience, but in reverse, I wouldn't deny it having the ability to positively impact others.

 

[Rozay Oro]

You need something more solid than testimonies. Our minds are very powerful and we can convince ourselves into believing extraordinary things that defy logic if our internal bias leads that way.

History and science doesn't line up with the Bible. To really believe in God and all what comes with that you really have to turn a blind eye to all of the evidence that science has proven about life on earth. All evidence of God I have seen is wanting to believe and having faith in something that you can't see feel or hear

Breh I understand that the idea of God alone is a paradox. You can try it for yourself, that’s the only way you can experience it. If not, well Hell is hot my brotha and only you sent yourself there.

 

[duncanthetall]

Because we are animals first. All the other stuff and morality came later. And gods not real.

 

[Rozay Oro]

I don't have a problem with people being religious, I only have a problem with people using the political arm to enforce it on others. Hypothetically speaking, if religion and a belief in something higher brings you more joy than denying it ever could, then being in line with my moral objectives, which is to improve overall well-being, so be it, be religious, I would only ask that you don't impede the happiness of others in the process. And that's not saying you do harm others, I'm speaking in general.


Regarding your last sentence, I'm a hard determinist, bro. If anything, the biases that spring from that kind of thinking would be too strong for me to properly accept that kind of experience, but in reverse, I wouldn't deny it having the ability to positively impact others.

I’m not religious and I barely go to church.
I truly have a relationship with our Creator. Breh I did enjoy this exchange and I thank you for being respectful. I do not have fun having these conversations, I wish I could do something more for you stubborn nikkas to see. If it was up to me I would have you nikkas having supernatural experiences that would humble you. I can not. I will keep you in my prayers my nikka.