Why was there so many cheating conspiracy theories after Fury beat Wilder

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i find it weird that many people were shocked that he lost.....

The dude was never good, everyone figured that eventually he was going to get exposed by a greater technical boxer. power only takes you so far against d-tier scrubs
 

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Fury's antics and problems outside the ring casted a great shadow of doubt over his physical and mental health.

Say what you want, but Wilder almost knocked Fury out in the first fight. So, when Fury decides to delay the rematch for 14 months by fighting two tune up fights (one of which he was in serious trouble of losing) plus fighting for the WWE, it makes you question where his head was at.

Fury didn't just outbox Wilder, either. He stopped him convincingly and viciously. That's the shock. If he would've just won a decision, I don't think anyone would've been shocked.
 

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Cause they fought before and he dropped Fury twice.
I don't really think it was the fact he lost ppl were shocked by but the fact he got his ass WHUPPED
It would have been way less shocking if Fury had merely "survived" by jabbing and moving avoiding Wilder power for 12 rounds some how
to go in there and take the fight to Wilder and bully him, eat his shots, and hurt him multiple times was the shocking part
 

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It's funny cause in the first few years of his title reign there was little to no hype around him and he knocked out ppl cold even then. When his Stiverne rematch KO went viral he kind of blew up and I guess more casual sports fans found him too.

Anyway, a lot of fans in the US ate the hype up cause they wanted an American fighter to rule the HW division again badly. It's understandable but Wilder was never gonna be that guy.
Taking advantage of this, his power, and his undoubtedly dramatic fights they built him up as once of the more recognized names in the current boxing scene. Good marketing job I guess bringing out so much from someone as limited as Wilder.

I never believed the hype, but I thought his first Ortiz win was impressive. Ortiz was his only top 10 ranked opponent other than Fury during his whole reign btw. Not entirely his fault (Povetkin situation...) but his handlers were more concerned with showcasing his KO power against in-house opponents than getting him in there with good competition, at least up until the last 2 years of his reign.
Realistically his stans should have known Wilder not always gonna KO everyone forever, it's unprecedented at a high level but the hype was stronger and the talk about skills went out the window, some of his stans felt confident Wilder doesn't even need skills.
PBC even felt confident in the Fury rematch lead up to market him as a future ATG which is just batshyt crazy cause I don't even know if the guy gonna be a HOF-er regardless what anyone says about empty stats of title defenses.

This may sound harsh, Wilder is/was an exciting fighter who always guaranteed some drama in his fights which makes for a great TV fighter but as for quality he was never THAT good.
 

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I wasn't. However I'll say this, Fury had a lot of defensive holes in the second bout that can be exploited. If you don't believe me watch it yourself.
 

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I wasn't. However I'll say this, Fury had a lot of defensive holes in the second bout that can be exploited. If you don't believe me watch it yourself.
exactly...as much as i give wilder shyt about being a one trick pony...fury is not as great as everyone thinks he is...wallin fight he got touched, bloodied, and rocked...fury's time is coming
 

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It's funny cause in the first few years of his title reign there was little to no hype around him and he knocked out ppl cold even then. When his Stiverne rematch KO went viral he kind of blew up and I guess more casual sports fans found him too.

Anyway, a lot of fans in the US ate the hype up cause they wanted an American fighter to rule the HW division again badly. It's understandable but Wilder was never gonna be that guy.
Taking advantage of this, his power, and his undoubtedly dramatic fights they built him up as once of the more recognized names in the current boxing scene. Good marketing job I guess bringing out so much from someone as limited as Wilder.

I never believed the hype, but I thought his first Ortiz win was impressive. Ortiz was his only top 10 ranked opponent other than Fury during his whole reign btw. Not entirely his fault (Povetkin situation...) but his handlers were more concerned with showcasing his KO power against in-house opponents than getting him in there with good competition, at least up until the last 2 years of his reign.
Realistically his stans should have known Wilder not always gonna KO everyone forever, it's unprecedented at a high level but the hype was stronger and the talk about skills went out the window, some of his stans felt confident Wilder doesn't even need skills.
PBC even felt confident in the Fury rematch lead up to market him as a future ATG which is just batshyt crazy cause I don't even know if the guy gonna be a HOF-er regardless what anyone says about empty stats of title defenses.

This may sound harsh, Wilder is/was an exciting fighter who always guaranteed some drama in his fights which makes for a great TV fighter but as for quality he was never THAT good.


@iceberg_is_on_fire said it best about what you mentioned

His career arc outpaced his talent. It was always going to catch up with him.
 

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i was only shocked that a fury coming off all types of problems and not 100% can still outbox wilder...boxing logic states that shouldnt happen
If u watch boxin .. u kno fury wasn’t gone ever lose to a haymaker artist that cannot box

If wilder went the Anthony Joshua route .. he would be done with boxin a long time ago

It’s a reason he fought garbage men and farmers long as he did

look how Joshua damn near was undisputed vs how nighas babied wilder
 

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If u watch boxin .. u kno fury wasn’t gone ever lose to a haymaker artist that cannot box

If wilder went the Anthony Joshua route .. he would be done with boxin a long time ago

It’s a reason he fought garbage men and farmers long as he did

look how Joshua damn near was undisputed vs how nighas babied wilder

i can tell you the exact fight where i started questioning wilder - vs molina...and this was after he won the belt from stiverne which i gave him props for in that fight thread. its was his best performance boxing wise. the molina fight made me go :patrice: hold up something is not right

fury though is a different case - ive never liked fury and how he fights..truthfully i thought he would have lost his zero a long time ago via KO :heh:
 

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i can tell you the exact fight where i started questioning wilder - vs molina...and this was after he won the belt from stiverne which i gave him props for in that fight thread. its was his best performance boxing wise. the molina fight made me go :patrice: hold up something is not right

fury though is a different case - ive never liked fury and how he fights..truthfully i thought he would have lost his zero a long time ago via KO :heh:

fury fights like cat .. the car in scary movie 2
 
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