Why was ice cube dissing the east back in the day

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NY hip hop fans, and media outlets (the Source and hot 97 were the main ones) didn't like that NYC was no longer the driving force in hip hop culture or record sales, so the backlash started.

I cant agree with this. I remember NYC bowing down to The Chronic and Doggystyle. But NYC fukked with whatever was hot. Humpty Dance, Passing Me By, Jump Around And it was Hammer who's mainstream success gave Cali that extra push.


But we also fukked with Geto Boys and Kriss Kross.

U name any year and NYC and NJ was selling. 91 had Heavy D, Public Enemy, Tribe, Naughty...
92 Redman, Das Efx..But Kris Kross and Arrested Development was big in NYC that year too.
93..Onyx, Wu Tang....The same year u had Snoop selling multi, Salt N Pepa sold multi.

And if we really keeping it a buck..Beastie Boys was killing everybody in sales.


And thats just sales.....I'm not even mentioning music. Flava Unit.DITC, Native Tongues, Hit Squad/Def Squad, Wu Tang, Boot Camp Click, We had our own sound....
Latifah, Lyte and Salt N Peppa had a big year in 93

New Jersey was also getting shine around this time......With Redman, Naughty Lords Of The Underground,

When Ed and Dre was doing The Roll Call that first year they used Tha Shiznit instrumentals and the "It Aint No Fun" instrumental....Wasnt no one complaining. Hot 97 played whatever was hot from the west to the south. They played that fukking Woop There It Is all summer 93.


Then u had the DJ circuit with S&S, Ron G, Double R, DJ Juice, and Clue......

NYC embraced its own and whatever was hot outside of NYC in the early /mid 90's. The Source gave Cube 5 mics for christ sake,,,,,The Chronic got the same rating as Ready To Die and Cuban Linx.
 

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I cant agree with this. I remember NYC bowing down to The Chronic and Doggystyle. But NYC fukked with whatever was hot. Humpty Dance, Passing Me By, Jump Around And it was Hammer who's mainstream success gave Cali that extra push.


But we also fukked with Geto Boys and Kriss Kross.

U name any year and NYC and NJ was selling. 91 had Heavy D, Public Enemy, Tribe, Naughty...
92 Redman, Das Efx..But Kris Kross and Arrested Development was big in NYC that year too.
93..Onyx, Wu Tang....The same year u had Snoop selling multi, Salt N Pepa sold multi.

And if we really keeping it a buck..Beastie Boys was killing everybody in sales.


And thats just sales.....I'm not even mentioning music. Flava Unit.DITC, Native Tongues, Hit Squad/Def Squad, Wu Tang, Boot Camp Click, We had our own sound....
Latifah, Lyte and Salt N Peppa had a big year in 93

New Jersey was also getting shine around this time......With Redman, Naughty Lords Of The Underground,

When Ed and Dre was doing The Roll Call that first year they used Tha Shiznit instrumentals and the "It Aint No Fun" instrumental....Wasnt no one complaining. Hot 97 played whatever was hot from the west to the south. They played that fukking Woop There It Is all summer 93.


Then u had the DJ circuit with S&S, Ron G, Double R, DJ Juice, and Clue......

NYC embraced its own and whatever was hot outside of NYC in the early /mid 90's. The Source gave Cube 5 mics for christ sake,,,,,The Chronic got the same rating as Ready To Die and Cuban Linx.
ok, what do you think cube was responding to when he said

'hip hop started in the west
bailing through the east coast without a vest"

&

'in the east, we can be brothers
but when you come out west take off them loud colors"

and the other shots he took at the east coast media and music establishment

cube-lady-liberty.jpg
 

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Like Pac said, Ice Cube was jumping in on some hype train shyt.


Westside Slaughterhouse came out in 95 tho, and the Mack 10 album it appeared on was recorded in 94/95 so he wasn't just jumping on the bandwagon

Never heard this before.:ohhh:

:dahell:Cube stopped rapping this way is beyond me.:mjcry:

:mindblown: breh you never heard Westside Slaughterhouse!? have you heard the Bow Down album & The World Is Mine? That's all Cube right when he was on the brink of that Don Mega bullshyt but still dope and the beats were different to his Lethal Injection style but still dope too.
 

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ok, what do you think cube was responding to when he said

'hip hop started in the west
bailing through the east coast without a vest"


Dude....U talking to the guy who had Cube as my #1 favorite solo in the 90's.


Post the whole quote:

All you suckers want to dis the pacific
But you buster nikkas never get specific
Used to love her mad cause we fukked
Her p*ssy whipped bytch with no common sense
Hip hop started in the west
Ice cube bailing through the east without a vest


That whole line was aimed at Commons song I Used To Love Her and how Common was bigging up the East and saying Hip Hop changed once the west coast started doing they thing. Cube is just shytting on Commons song.







'in the east, we can be brothers
but when you come out west take off them loud colors"

Post the original quote not the video version:

In the East, we can be brothers
But when you come to L.A., watch your motherfukkin colors


Sounds like Cube is just saying IN LA u have to watch what colors u wearing.





and the other shots he took at the east coast media and music establishment

cube-lady-liberty.jpg



Tho I will admit that pic was taken during the era of his sideways jabs at NYC......I cant help but remember that line he said about the Statue Of Liberty on The Preditor (The one that has the sample of the song East Coast by Das Efx) which was more aimed at the Statue Of Libertys false representation in America.


Coming with a crazy pitch
And the statue of Liberty ain't nothing but a lazy bytch
Don't want to give up the crack to the black
But you call it racial, if we go and break the ho'
 

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Westside Slaughterhouse came out in 95 tho, and the Mack 10 album it appeared on was recorded in 94/95 so he wasn't just jumping on the bandwagon



:mindblown: breh you never heard Westside Slaughterhouse!? have you heard the Bow Down album & The World Is Mine? That's all Cube right when he was on the brink of that Don Mega bullshyt but still dope and the beats were different to his Lethal Injection style but still dope too.
I don't like I HATE WC and Mack 10 with a passion, no joke.:francis:


I will avoid anything with those two on it.:mjlol::lolbron:


I know I'm in the minority but I think they ruin songs on some Young Noble/Kastro Outlawz status.:yeshrug:
 

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Like Pac said, Ice Cube was jumping in on some hype train shyt.


Why wouldn't he want Cube on his side didn't he say in the beginning of Makevalli "The Capp in this big as war we got" Talking about Snoop when Snoop had no intentions of really getting involved.

Look like he aligned himself with the wrong MC...nikka wanted all the Glory for taking out the East on his own. But in retrospect Cube was the Don of the Westcoast and that's why Pac cancer men especially was bytching..Pac really think he was gonna take nikkas out without help.

nikkas its levels Pac got 3 straight classics along with Redman in the 96 time frame.

Cube was the first to do it understand your place.

Bout to bump N.Y.C. Critic

:dj2:

nikkas think L L line about in La muthafukkas gangbang but if you touch the mic yall know the rest..Yall thought that was for Pac:mjlol:
 

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I don't like I HATE WC and Mack 10 with a passion, no joke.:francis:


I will avoid anything with those two on it.:mjlol::lolbron:


I know I'm in the minority but I think they ruin songs on some Young Noble/Kastro Outlawz status.:yeshrug:

i can understand hating Mack 10 but i think he even has his place. but i don't understand not liking WC, his flow is crazy and he's always had dope albums from Low Profile to MAAD Circle all the way through to his solo albums, Ghetto Heisman was DOPE IMO

 

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Dude....U talking to the guy who had Cube as my #1 favorite solo in the 90's.


Post the whole quote:

All you suckers want to dis the pacific
But you buster nikkas never get specific
Used to love her mad cause we fukked
Her p*ssy whipped bytch with no common sense
Hip hop started in the west
Ice cube bailing through the east without a vest


That whole line was aimed at Commons song I Used To Love Her and how Common was bigging up the East and saying Hip Hop changed once the west coast started doing they thing. Cube is just shytting on Commons song.









Post the original quote not the video version:

In the East, we can be brothers
But when you come to L.A., watch your motherfukkin colors


Sounds like Cube is just saying IN LA u have to watch what colors u wearing.









Tho I will admit that pic was taken during the era of his sideways jabs at NYC......I cant help but remember that line he said about the Statue Of Liberty on The Preditor (The one that has the sample of the song East Coast by Das Efx) which was more aimed at the Statue Of Libertys false representation in America.


Coming with a crazy pitch
And the statue of Liberty ain't nothing but a lazy bytch
Don't want to give up the crack to the black
But you call it racial, if we go and break the ho'
wait,
the second video in OP is a song where Cube goes directly in on East Coast....so how can you avoid what the thread topic is about which was Cube shytting on NYC,it's media, and the artists?

Saying "Hip hop started in the west" was dissing Common only?

Cube was responding to backlash from a city that had once embraced him like no other non NYC artist. I'm asking you, if you disagee on my take for the WHY.....what your tke is about what caused Ice Cube to start shytting on New york.

The fact that he shytted on New York is not up for debate, I'm asking what you think prompted him to do it, if not the factors I laid out.
 

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i can understand hating Mack 10 but i think he even has his place. but i don't understand not liking WC, his flow is crazy and he's always had dope albums from Low Profile to MAAD Circle all the way through to his solo albums, Ghetto Heisman was DOPE IMO


They all fell off the moment they became a collective especially Cube. It's almost as if Cube changed his ghost writer.:hubie:
 

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wait,
the second video in OP is a song where Cube goes directly in on East Coast....so how can you avoid what the thread topic is about which was Cube shytting on NYC,it's media, and the artists?

The fact that he shytted on New York is not up for debate, I'm asking what you think prompted him to do it, if not the factors I laid out.

Correction. Cube goes directly at NYC rap media in the 2nd song posted in the OP. And u didnt ask me about the 2nd song in the OP....U asked about other shyt and now u asking about that specific WSC song.

But that specific song is aimed more at NYC rap media. The Source magazine and the radio.

Saggin as a pelle, smashin tape recorders/This is 187 on a new york reporter

Leave em bleedin in particles for them biases articles

Kickin over newstands, pouring gasoline on your magazines

fukk all the critics in the n-why-see/And your articles tryin to rate my lp


I bet you after this I get a fukkin hip-hop classic


nikka fukk that shyt
I gotta, kill it kill it, fukk a new york critic
He write about how I lived it, did it, plus I'm still with it
Puttin it down on all these djs, hate, fakin and flakin
Never once played my record on their radio station
No love for a new york critic or disc jock
Matter of fact I'm blamin all y'all for fukkin up hip-hop


U need to go listen to that song again. The entire song is aimed more at NYC rap media....then it is shytting on NYC as a whole. Let me also add....East Coast rappers were also ahytting on NYC rap media as well.
 
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