Why Tupac Died Broke

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This is the answer.

Folks can’t act like the artist gets a weekly “sales” check when their album is out.

Before the NY shooting he spent $$$ taking care of alot of people + legal fees + himself. This continued while at Death Row. Simon might have fronted him cash as an advance but that $ obviously went to making sure his people were straight. I’m sure he wasn’t going to say no to family but he also knew he was generating $$$ thru sales of a successful album so he’d be okay.

And like you said, the royalty checks were coming. That’s the nature of the business. You recoup and then get paid. Most artists don’t recoup a damn thing, so Pac was going to be fine. And he was a worker, so the label was going to put his shít in stores so it could sell out.

Being on the label less than a year how does this $$$ magically show up? The man simply needed to stay alive so he could enjoy the fruits of his labor.

Serious question, how does the average artist get paid, especially when the album sales do what they're supposed to do?

For example, Eminem. He was broke up until he was 25/26. At what point did he start seeing real money? Right after the SSLP came out or did it take a couple months?
 

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borrowing money from your wife …. what type of nonsense is this

again, i always wonder where do people come up with this notion that he was broke

he took his 1993 advance money to start his own label with his homie, Lance which produced 2 albums, where he was the executive producer, and wrote all of the albums. Those 2 albums, one from Junior M.A.F.I.A., and the other one from Lil Kim was very successful.

Add the fact he was puff executive producer for his album

owned a clothing line, called Brooklyn mint

owned 3 properties in a gated community in New Jersey one for his mother, one for him and fay and the other one for Junior mafia again

where is this ridiculous notion that he died broke
His advance money was $25k, not the $60k as the movie claimed. His mother wrote that in her book. Biggie had serious financial problems. Biggie didn't have money like that. You can do the numbers of sales and his royalties. Plus Puff owned half of his publishing. He was leasing cars, like most nba players and musicians, and the houses weren't paid off. It's ok to find out Santa Clause isn't real. the label deal was with Un and and the album went gold(500k if you aren't aware), but but all of that money doesn't go to Big hahaha. cmon man. Biggie didn't have it like that. He wasn't definitely on the come up before his death though. I'm giving you information from his mother and wife. Don't quote me to argue, go on their twitter pages and tell them they are lying.
 

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Serious question, how does the average artist get paid, especially when the album sales do what they're supposed to do?

For example, Eminem. He was broke up until he was 25/26. At what point did he start seeing real money? Right after the SSLP came out or did it take a couple months?
Album sales as a whole were never for albums sold, but albums "shipped". . You'd get a platinum or gold plaque if your label shipped 500k or 1 million units initially. The albums would sometimes not "sell" 500k, but the remaining copies would have to be put on discount or in the dollar bin so the store could move them. But artists would still get a plaque for it. It would take months for an artist to see a check after sales of an album. Everyone gets paid first, including producers and after everything is recouped, at a bullshyt very high rate, then the artist could see a check. Back then, show money is how artists made money because there were not 360 deals taking a piece of that from them. So there can be an example of an artist selling millions records and singles, but never seeing a check from the label. See (De la soul). Artists find ways to rob artists with hidden costs like studio time(even though they rent studios for block perids, but charge artists a higher rate), promotion costs, half of video costs, and a lot of shyt they can squeeze out of them. You've really got to be on top of your business.
 

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Pac was taking care of his entire family
Pac was paying off lawyers. Taking care of like 40 people. Spending his own and he didn't get his royalty checks yet. Basically.
Grown people who think it’s cool to be dependent on other grown people are :hhh:

It’s one thing to ask for a favor every now and then. It’s a whole other thing to basically have someone take care of you.

It’s wild we actually think that’s acceptable and even somewhat of a requirement. If you make it big it’s your responsibility to take care of the grown ass people around you :hhh:

Damn shame we teach young men that’s an admirable trait :hhh:
 

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Serious question, how does the average artist get paid, especially when the album sales do what they're supposed to do?

For example, Eminem. He was broke up until he was 25/26. At what point did he start seeing real money? Right after the SSLP came out or did it take a couple months?

It’s like the drug game.

Most artists get fronted some $ in the beginning of their career because they are broke and need the time to focus on recording and turning in the album to the label on time.

So the label gives them $. For some it can be $100k for a select few it can be $1 million. For a bunch it’s less. But make no mistakes, it’s more than a new artist has in their pocket at the moment.

The label puts it on the artists’ tab and that must be repaid along with whatever $ the label invested: promotion $, marketing $, studio time, paying for hotels/food, jewels. The label is cool with fronting that $ because when the album sells, they get paid FIRST until the $ you own them (that they fronted) is recouped.

So you better sell 2 million records — if we are speaking of the days when you sold CDs and tapes.

Now as an artist you better make sure your paperwork is right and you got someone doing a proper accounting so that those checks look right — if you are selling a lot of records. And make sure that person is keeping the label on its toes when it’s time to audit those books so you aren’t getting jerked.

Now if you’re popping as an artist you can find other ways to get paid while you wait for those album sales. Some do club appearances for cash straight up, some do a verse or two for local artist but doing shows is the consistent way for cash flow since you can tour your ass off and get paid at the venue.
 

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borrowing money from your wife …. what type of nonsense is this

again, i always wonder where do people come up with this notion that he was broke

he took his 1993 advance money to start his own label with his homie, Lance which produced 2 albums, where he was the executive producer, and wrote all of the albums. Those 2 albums, one from Junior M.A.F.I.A., and the other one from Lil Kim was very successful.

Add the fact he was puff executive producer for his album

owned a clothing line, called Brooklyn mint

owned 3 properties in a gated community in New Jersey one for his mother, one for him and fay and the other one for Junior mafia again

where is this ridiculous notion that he died broke
That was Daryll James of Rap Sheet saying that bullshyt about Biggie dying broke.
Plus, that clown is still pissed off about Dre and Snoop leaving Death Row to this very day.
I said it before and I'll say it again. He is a mouthpiece for Suge who should have been put out of his misery years ago.
 
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Pac grew up in insane poverty and then got a quick check from the police and then an even bag from being in movies and music. He had no concept of money early on. Then he had nothing but legal troubles for the last few years of his life which drained his bank account. He also had a real sexual assault case which cost him (taken off Madonnas albums, look movie roles)

Then to top it off sign to a nikka named Suge Knight on a napkin :heh: Perfect recipe for dying broke
 

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Biggie sold his publishing to Puffy for 250K, only a nikka hurting money (on a relative scale) would do that shyt :mjlol:

Before the late 90s, most rappers were at best living in a modest crib outside the city ie a lot of NY rappers living in Jersey. But a lot of them still lived in the projects and still had to be in the streets a little bit. Havoc for example, didn't move out of QB until '98. Ghost said he didn't stop selling drugs til 95.
 

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Couldn’t even imagine seeing pac survive to see the 2000s if am been honest to much of a hot head to easily to get himself caught up in another situation that gets him shot …. Basically if he survived vegas then I could see him getting shot and killed in another conflict later down the line ..
That's why I think Biggie's death is the bigger tragedy because Pac did not live like a nikka that expected to see 30
 

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That was Daryll James of Rap Sheet saying that bullshyt about Biggie dying broke.
Plus, that clown is still pissed off about Dre and Snoop leaving Death Row to this very day.
I said it before and I'll say it again. He is a mouthpiece for Suge who should have been put out of his misery years ago.
:salute:
 

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His advance money was $25k, not the $60k as the movie claimed. His mother wrote that in her book. Biggie had serious financial problems. Biggie didn't have money like that. You can do the numbers of sales and his royalties. Plus Puff owned half of his publishing. He was leasing cars, like most nba players and musicians, and the houses weren't paid off. It's ok to find out Santa Clause isn't real. the label deal was with Un and and the album went gold(500k if you aren't aware), but but all of that money doesn't go to Big hahaha. cmon man. Biggie didn't have it like that. He wasn't definitely on the come up before his death though. I'm giving you information from his mother and wife. Don't quote me to argue, go on their twitter pages and tell them they are lying.

I never said biggie had money like that before his untimely demise …. you on the other hand, said he died broke which I know is nonsense or maybe I need to get your definition of what the term broke means

with that said. You brought up 2 things that are simply not true

1. Leasing cars : it’s complete bullshyt cause big didn’t even know how to drive himself I believe he only had that Range Rover, which cease took him wherever he needed to go

2. Definitely not on the come up : how in the world could you say that when he owned half of a record label which he was about to add new talent like Charlie Baltimore and Camron …. he owned a big man clothing line call Brooklyn Mint …. he was about to do a deal with this new company called BAPE a decade before they even blew …. and was in the process of getting a subsidiary deal from bad boys/Arista with his first project was going to be called the commission a new super group between himself and Jay Z with both of their up&coming artists
 

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Biggie sold his publishing to Puffy for 250K, only a nikka hurting money (on a relative scale) would do that shyt :mjlol:

Before the late 90s, most rappers were at best living in a modest crib outside the city ie a lot of NY rappers living in Jersey. But a lot of them still lived in the projects and still had to be in the streets a little bit. Havoc for example, didn't move out of QB until '98. Ghost said he didn't stop selling drugs til 95.

biggie sold half of his publishing for 250K with the option of buying it back

and didn’t do that because he was hurting for money …. he did it because his mother just was diagnosed with cancer and wanted to make sure she got the best medical service he could provide



It really seems that people must really not know this because it’s quite disingenuous to depict him selling half of his publishing because he with some dusty ass nikka



:whoa: and for the record, I’m not specifically saying you
 
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