Why is Manny Pacquiao always touted as being an 8x Champion in 8 different divisions...

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Like I said before, 148-154 is the weight range for JMW, if both parties agree to come in at 150 for the title without protest, whats so retarded about it?

it's retarded TO ME...I'm not a fan of catch weights, it's that simple, capping off 4lb's of a weight limit is stupid TO ME.

I know the weight ranges in boxing lol, It's like fighting for the Welterweight title but can only weigh in at 143lbs, fighting for a lightweight title but can only weigh in at 136lb's, i now even then they are still fighting in their weight classes but capping off 4lb's just come of as bullshyt TO ME.

1 or 2lb's catch weight isn't to bad but 4lb's just comes off pathetic to me.
 

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it's retarded TO ME...I'm not a fan of catch weights, it's that simple, capping off 4lb's of a weight limit is stupid TO ME.

I know the weight ranges in boxing lol, It's like fighting for the Welterweight title but can only weigh in at 143lbs, fighting for a lightweight title but can only weigh in at 136lb's, i now even then they are still fighting in their weight classes but capping off 4lb's just come of as bullshyt TO ME.

1 or 2lb's catch weight isn't to bad but 4lb's just comes off pathetic to me.

You calling it bullshyt and pathetic yet you cant list a single legit reason why. :beli: why do you care if its 2 or 4 pounds under the max limit if the guys fighting agree to do it with no issues
 

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You calling it bullshyt and pathetic yet you cant list a single legit reason why. :beli: why do you care if its 2 or 4 pounds under the max limit if the guys fighting agree to do it with no issues

Because i don't agree with catch weights bruh, its not rocket science, at all....it's in my original post, if your going to fight for a title, i'd prefer them to fight them to the maximum weight limit...not a catch weight where opponents are trying to get some sort of advantage.
 

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Because i don't agree with catch weights bruh, its not rocket science, at all....it's in my original post, if your going to fight for a title, i'd prefer them to fight them to the maximum weight limit...not a catch weight where opponents are trying to get some sort of advantage.
Catchweights only give an advantage if the opponent cant make that weight healthily. If they can make the weight you shouldn't have an issue.. fighting at max weight or catchweight doesn't automatically give either fighter an advantage, you sound silly.. if anything, it further evens the playing field depending on the size of each fighter
 

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Catchweights only give an advantage if the opponent cant make that weight healthily. If they can make the weight you shouldn't have an issue.. fighting at max weight or catchweight doesn't automatically give either fighter an advantage, you sound silly.. if anything, it further evens the playing field depending on the size of each fighter

So why did Pacquiao ask for a catch weight...if he doesn't gain some advantage from it?

It furthers the even fields? I'm pretty sure if there wasn't a catch weight Margarito would've weighed in at 154lb or close, to try to utilize his size much as possible.
 

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Catchweights give an advantage to the naturally smaller fighter by forcing the naturally bigger fighter to lose more weight than accustomed to at that class.

That simple.

There's a reason Canelo said he will NEVER fight at a catchweight again.

If you can't make the weight, you shouldn't be fighting there. Don't force another fighter to have to drain down because you can't make the full limit. Come in at whatever you are, and let your opponent as well...as long as he's not over the division limit.
 

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So why did Pacquiao ask for a catch weight...if he doesn't gain some advantage from it?

It furthers the even fields? I'm pretty sure if there wasn't a catch weight Margarito would've weighed in at 154lb or close, to try to utilize his size much as possible.
because he is at a huge size disadvantage.. If Margarito weighed in at 154 he would have been at an advantage, but the catchweight didn't automatically put Pacquiao at a superior position
Catchweights give an advantage to the naturally smaller fighter by forcing the naturally bigger fighter to lose more weight than accustomed to at that class.

That simple.

There's a reason Canelo said he will NEVER fight at a catchweight again.

If you can't make the weight, you shouldn't be fighting there. Don't force another fighter to have to drain down because you can't make the full limit. Come in at whatever you are, and let your opponent as well...as long as he's not over the division limit.

Nobody forced anybody to do anything.. they signed a contract and agreed to meet at a certain weight. The maximum limit on a weight class isn't some magical number where if you come in under the max weight the other guy automatically has the upper hand. Just because Canelo doesn't want to do catchweights doesn't mean shyt really :ld:because the next man might not have an issue coming in a couple pounds under the limit.. some guys walk around close to their fighting weights.. some guys blow up then come training camp hey have to drop 25 or more lbs... Every situation isn't the same.. All im saying I dont think meeting a few pounds under the limit is that much to ask at all when you're moving up to a bigger weight division for rhe first time... It beomes bullshyt when you have a guy like Floyd, who's fougt at JMW twice already then the 3rd time all of a sudden he needs a catchweight
 

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because he is at a huge size disadvantage.. If Margarito weighed in at 154 he would have been at an advantage, but the catchweight didn't automatically put Pacquiao at a superior position

lol this has been my point all along, i clearly said the reason i don't like catch weights is because if you want go up in weight, do it properly, go all the way, don't cap the weight limit...other wise don't do it (which is my opinion).

Part of going up weight is the challenge of being at a automatic disadvantage to somebody naturally bigger then you, not trying to bring your opponent to weigh in closer to your current division.

Your the 1 that brought up the Marg-Pac weight thing, my issue is...go up in weight properly or don't do it all.

Capping 4lb's is retarded to me & I'm pretty sure it's probably 1 of the biggest catch weights in the last decade if not the biggest. (But don't quote me on that, going off the top of my head)
 
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