Why is Manny Pacquiao always touted as being an 8x Champion in 8 different divisions...

[Newzz]

when I show him as a 7x Champion in 6 different divisions?


I mean, that is STILL an amazing feat (7 championships over 6 divisions), but why do they always list him as an 8x Champion in 8 different divisions....when it's not true?


He won the WBC Flyweight Championship from Chatchai Sasakul, the IBF Super Bantamweight Championship from Lehlo Ledwaba, the WBC Super Featherweight Championship from Juan Manuel Marquez, the WBC Lightweight Championship from David Diaz, the WBO Welterweight Championship from Miguel Cotto, the vacant WBC Light Middleweight Championship against Antonio Margarito, and regained the WBO Welterweight Championship from Timothy Bradley. That's 7 Belts over 6 divisions


What am I missing brehs?

 

[Black_Jesus]

when I show him as a 7x Champion in 6 different divisions?


I mean, that is STILL an amazing feat (7 championships over 6 divisions), but why do they always list him as an 8x Champion in 8 different divisions....when it's not true?


He won the WBC Flyweight Championship from Chatchai Sasakul, the IBF Super Bantamweight Championship from Lehlo Ledwaba, the WBC Super Featherweight Championship from Juan Manuel Marquez, the WBC Lightweight Championship from David Diaz, the WBO Welterweight Championship from Miguel Cotto, the vacant WBC Light Middleweight Championship against Antonio Margarito, and regained the WBO Welterweight Championship from Timothy Bradley. That's 7 Belts over 6 divisions


What am I missing brehs?

IBO JWW belt against Hatton..... breh I know.. still a championship belt even though its not recognized by the the top 4 sanctioned bodies

 

[Newzz]

IBO JWW belt against Hatton..... breh I know.. still a championship belt even though its not recognized by the the top 4 sanctioned bodies

That would then give him 8x Championships in 7 divisions then, so they must also be counting the fact he fought at Featherweight as a division (8x Champion over 8 divisions) even though he didnt win a belt there



Im not gonna count that belt of course (the IBO Championship), but now I finally understand why he's listed as a 8x Champion over 8 divisions...good info breh

 

[Black_Jesus]

That would then give him 8x Championships in 7 divisions then, so they must also be counting the fact he fought at Featherweight as a division (8x Champion over 8 divisions) even though he didnt win a belt there



Im not gonna count that belt of course (the IBO Championship), but now I finally understand why he's listed as a 8x Champion over 8 divisions...good info breh

Do you count Lineal/RING belts?

 

[Newzz]

Do you count Lineal/RING belts?

nope

 

[Black_Jesus]

nope

Well some do... i think he was awarded lineal strap at Featherweight and thats one of the 8 divs they're counting

 

[patscorpio]

Do you count Lineal/RING belts?

dude was lineal at feather and light welterweight..same thing as briggs was the lineal heavyweight champ when he beat foreman

 

[Newzz]

Well some do... i think he was awarded lineal strap at Featherweight and thats one of the 8 divs they're counting

He never won a title period at Featherweight


He had 3 fights at Featherweight. Against MAB (non-title), against JMM (ended in a draw), and against 3K Battery (was an IBF eliminator for the IBF #2 ranking at Featherweight, but no belt on the line).

 

[Black_Jesus]

He never won a title period at Featherweight


He had 3 fights at Featherweight. Against MAB (non-title), against JMM (ended in a draw), and against 3K Battery (was an IBF eliminator for the IBF #2 ranking at Featherweight, but no belt on the line).

I know that nikka.. He was awarded the Ring championship for beating Berrera at Featherweight.. no different than winning a vacant strap.. weather you personally count it or not, thats one of the divisions they're referring to

 

[Figaro]

That Margarito title win was an absolute farce

 

[Black_Jesus]

That Margarito title win was an absolute farce

How so?

 

[Figaro]

154lb title fought at 150lb limit

 

[Black_Jesus]

154lb title fought at 150lb limit

Its called the Junior Middleweight title not the 154 title.. 154 is just a weight you cant exceed..The Junior Middleweight range is from 148 to 154.. The nikka Marg wasn't drained in the fight and had a damn near 20lb size advantage fight nighy, so the catchweight really isn't that big of deal as people make it

 

[Figaro]

Its called the Junior Middleweight title not the 154 title.. 154 is just a weight you cant exceed..The Junior Middleweight range is from 148 to 154.. The nikka Marg wasn't drained in the fight and had a damn near 20lb size advantage so the catchweight really isn't that big of deal as people make it

I'm not even talking about people getting drained here bruh, your just putting words in your own mouth now... i just think it's retarded that guy weighed in closer to the maximum limit of welterweight then then maximum weight limit for the title he's fighting for.

If your going for a title, let them weigh in all the way, that's all...I'm just not a fan of catch weights, especially when your capping off 4lbs.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I'm not even talking about people getting drained here bruh, your just putting words in your own mouth now... i just think it's retarded that guy weighed in closer to the maximum limit of welterweight then then maximum weight limit for the title he's fighting for.

If your going for a title, let them weigh in all the way, that's all...I'm just not a fan of catch weights, especially when your capping off 4lbs.

Like I said before, 148-154 is the weight range for JMW, if both parties agree to come in at 150 for the title without protest, whats so retarded about it?