Why hasn't there been any successful Atheist civilization?

[Chris.B]

We all know Christianity led to the rise of western civilization as evident of the cross in many flags of Western European countries.

With all the enlightenment that Atheists claim to have(:obama3: ), why hasn't there been a successful society purely based on atheism?

 

[Blackking]

I believe China is very successful. As a matter of fact, they are about to be the wealthiest nation. I guess they don't do well with human rights, but you're 'success' measurements aren't defined.

The Soviet Union was successful for a while.

We base a lot of good things off the French revolution.. and most revolutionaries study that shyt... and they were two sec from creating an Atheist French State.... it's just that the Christians were deadly murdering controlling people part of an establishment that controls the world... .so atheist France wasn't a viable option at the time. But as a black revolutionist.. whose ideas partially come from atheist around that time..... The best people of that revolution were atheist.

Revolutions all of the world were promoted by atheist. Many of our best ideas about government, imo, come from those people.

Where are the African controlled nations that are considered great nations? It's not that they are atheist... it's just that when your operating within in a Caucasian Christian paradigm it's difficult to make anything else successful. .

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Civilizations achieve success in spite of their religions, not because of them. FOH convenience Christian.

 

[Chris.B]

Civilizations achieve success in spite of their religions, not because of them. FOH convenience Christian.

Straight bullsh!t.
No way you have western civilization without Christendom.

Religion was core and center piece of how this very country was established.

Although fairly new, Americans recognize we are where we are because of God.

Most laws in western countries are based off the Bible.
Same way most laws are based of Qur'an and Haddith in most Islamic countries.

What would an Atheist society base their laws on?

 

[Blackking]

Straight bullsh!t.
No way you have western civilization without Christendom.

Religion was core and center piece of how this very country was established.

Although fairly new, Americans recognize we are where we are because of God.

Most laws in western countries are based off the Bible.
Same way most laws are based of Qur'an and Haddith in most Islamic countries.

What would an Atheist society base their laws on?

Logic and consensus decision-making

 

[Chris.B]

Logic and consensus decision-making

So if there is a consensus that incest between 2 adults should be allowed by majority of citizens in an Atheist society, there is nothing wrong with it?

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Straight bullsh!t.
No way you have western civilization without Christendom.

Religion was core and center piece of how this very country was established.

Although fairly new, Americans recognize we are where we are because of God.

Most laws in western countries are based off the Bible.
Same way most laws are based of Qur'an and Haddith in most Islamic countries.

What would an Atheist society base their laws on?

Logic?

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

So if there is a consensus that incest between 2 adults should be allowed by majority of citizens in an Atheist society, there is nothing wrong with it?

Since when is a majority considered the "logical" point to go automatically?

 

[NubianVitruvian]

That's a leading question. Your inferring that would be legal in an Atheist society. You are not an athiest, you don't know how they would set up their laws. Hypothetically speaking though, yes that would be "wrong."

You seem to be implying that within an Atheist society, without some set of religious laws, all types of fvkry would happen. Atheism=/= Lack of Morals. Religion =/= Morals. And vice versa. Morals are morals irregardless of whatever title you put on your beliefs.

 

[Chris.B]

Logic?

From the Declaration of Independence...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Who is this "creator" the declaring of Independence is talking about?

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

From the Declaration of Independence...


Who is this "creator" the declaring of Independence is talking about?

The universe. It's a hell of a lot better answer than what you'd give.

 

[Chris.B]

That's a leading question. Your inferring that would be legal in an Atheist society. You are not an athiest, you don't know how they would set up their laws. Hypothetically speaking though, yes that would be "wrong."

You seem to be implying that within an Atheist society, without some set of religious laws, all types of fvkry would happen. Atheism=/= Lack of Morals. Religion =/= Morals. And vice versa. Morals are morals irregardless of whatever title you put on your beliefs.

But in a Christian/Islamic society moral-ism is derived from a holy book.

Where would Atheist get their "moral" from if there is no checker?
It is by no accident that most laws in western world can be traced to the Bible....

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

That's a leading question. Your inferring that would be legal in an Atheist society. You are not an athiest, you don't know how they would set up their laws. Hypothetically speaking though, yes that would be "wrong."

You seem to be implying that within an Atheist society, without some set of religious laws, all types of fvkry would happen. Atheism=/= Lack of Morals. Religion =/= Morals. And vice versa. Morals are morals irregardless of whatever title you put on your beliefs.

He thinks that because he is kept in line by fear of eternal hell fire that nobody else could possibly control themselves without the fear of eternal hell fire.

 

[Blackking]

So if there is a consensus that incest between 2 adults should be allowed by majority of citizens in an Atheist society, there is nothing wrong with it?

Wrong is determined by the law of the land and the customs. If the land says that a Christian pastor can accept donations and become wealthy from the sweat of his congregation, while the majority of them remain poor... And on top of that all of his money is tax free... Then then it's ok. It's legal.

It's only morally wrong if society says it is.

We have billion dollar corporations not contributing to their share of taxes that are used for social programs... That's wrong in Cuba, it's right here. We have Christian nations killing black and Brown people all over the world simply because of greed and power... Our society condones it.

Each society determines, only for that one society, what is wrong. In an atheist society, it would be ok for men to insert lil boys asses, and it would be ok for sis and bro to have intercourse. More than likely you could get abortions at 7 Months. Science would replace religion and control the government and society dogmatically... and probably end up with similar results of corruption.

imo.

 

[Chris.B]

The universe. It's a hell of a lot better answer than what you'd give.

I do not think those who wrote the declaration on independence will define the "creator" as the universe....:obama3: