Why Don't Dominican Baseball Players Walk?

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It’s been more than a decade since the value of on-base percentage reached the mainstream, yet the significance of that has yet to hit the island. While the industry has evolved to evaluate players based on advanced metrics that capture the impact of previously overlooked contributions, scouting and teaching in the Dominican continues to be based on raw skills grounded in flawed fundamentals.

Put simply, among other things, Dominican players don’t walk. Some stunning number to consider: out of the top 10 leaders in walks last year in each of the 10 full-season minor leagues, only four of the possible 100 players were Dominican. Since 2009, only one undrafted, non-U.S.-educated, Dominican-born player ranked in the top 30 in baseball in walk rate: Cleveland’s Carlos Santana.

In the short term, this deficiency is causing teams to waste valuable developmental time in trying to teach on-base skills and plate discipline to kids who have no concept of what that means or who have grown up believing that watching a pitch pass by is a sin. And in the end, it might be a fruitless cause anyway.

“I think you can help a kid, but I don’t think you can change a kid from what he is,” said one American League international scouting director. “You’re not turning someone like Vladdy (Vladimir Guerrero) into a disciplined hitter.”

Mark Newman, a Yankees senior vice president, believes that with hard work—usually during periods such as the instructional league, which will take place for most organizations in the next month or so—a team could significantly improve the walk rate of approximately 10-15 percent of players, a number that hardly seems encouraging. In that example, only one out of 10 offensive players signed out of the Dominican will ever acquire the secondary skills that would make him a very valuable hitter in the majors.

Dominican youngsters are trading potentially lucrative long-term contracts as professionals for the quick profit they can turn by exhibiting skills that will get them a signing bonus as amateurs. Only one of the 30 biggest contracts ever handed out was given to a Dominican-born, amateur free agent player: Alfonso Soriano. And the biggest reason why the Soriano contract has turned into such a disaster for the Cubs? While Soriano can hit (he has 372 career home runs), he can’t walk (a lowly .323 career OBP and 7.2 percent walk rate).

The simplest explanation for this endemic lack of discipline is that Dominican kids rarely play games. Socioeconomic conditions have made sports a low government priority in the poverty-stricken country. By the time players are 17, the AL international scouting director estimates, Dominican players are at least 1,000 at-bats behind their American counterparts.

Full article here: Baseball Prospectus | Baseball ProGUESTus: Finding a Way to Walk off the Island
 

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Because there's no such thing as a full count in DR.

The max amount of strikes you get is 3. The max amount of balls = unlimited. That's why Dominican pitchers have such control issues as well. The fourth ball isn't a penalty to DR kids. Walking your way on base is not an option and that's ingrained from day 1.

*kid walks you*

*you start crying*

Your father: Cmon man let him get a swing. Stop fukkin around. Hey, mi hijo, usa ese bate cono, maricon.

The walk might as well be a strikeout the way people frown upon it out there
 

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Because there's no such thing as a full count in DR.

The max amount of strikes you get is 3. The max amount of balls = unlimited. That's why Dominican pitchers have such control issues as well. The fourth ball isn't a penalty to DR kids. Walking your way on base is not an option and that's ingrained from day 1.

*kid walks you*

*you start crying*

Your father: Cmon man let him get a swing. Stop fukkin around. Hey, mi hijo, usa ese bate cono, maricon.

The walk might as well be a strikeout the way people frown upon it out there

Interesting. My homie spends a lot of time down there, he has told me a lot about the baseball scene down there, but he never said anything about the concept of no full counts, etc.

Explains Vlad. Thought nothing really explains Vlad, he was inhuman.
 

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Interesting. My homie spends a lot of time down there, he has told me a lot about the baseball scene down there, but he never said anything about the concept of no full counts, etc.

Explains Vlad. Thought nothing really explains Vlad, he was inhuman.

I don't mean that literally Walt :laugh: Baseball players don't take walks for the same reason why you don't shoot free throws during a pickup game. Sure you could do it, and yes it would be a positive, but it's boring, time consuming, and like the article said, it's not like kids are out there playing actual games, so most times kids just stay in the plate until something happens. Either you strike out or you make contact.

Vlad's a special case. If Vlad learned how to hit here instead of in DR, he might have hit .400 in a season. However, he also wouldn't swing at the shyt he swung at. He's probably the best bad pitch hitter of our time. Robinson Cano on the other hand... that's a motherfukker that never got to learn and understand the value of the walk. He'd be Rod Carew with power for real if he just knew how to pick his spots, but he's 30. It's too late for him. This shyt ruins careers. Willy Taveras would be a perennial all-star if he knew how to take a walk.
 

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I don't mean that literally Walt :laugh:

Oh no, I got that it was figurative, man. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I was responding in the same vein I thought you intended.

Baseball players don't take walks for the same reason why you don't shoot free throws during a pickup game. Sure you could do it, and yes it would be a positive, but it's boring, time consuming, and like the article said, it's not like kids are out there playing actual games, so most times kids just stay in the plate until something happens. Either you strike out or you make contact.

Vlad's a special case. If Vlad learned how to hit here instead of in DR, he might have hit .400 in a season. However, he also wouldn't swing at the shyt he swung at. He's probably the best bad pitch hitter of our time. Robinson Cano on the other hand... that's a motherfukker that never got to learn and understand the value of the walk. He'd be Rod Carew with power for real if he just knew how to pick his spots, but he's 30. It's too late for him. This shyt ruins careers. Willy Taveras would be a perennial all-star if he knew how to take a walk.

:ohhh:

Robbie my nikka, I hate it had to be him. :to:
 
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