Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

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@Jesus Shuttlesworth You sound mad bruh. Come back and re-read this thread when your emotions calm down. Try not to be too blinded by your faith.

Says the guy who "negged" me. :heh:

I re-read it when I made the post that you originally quoted. You and your friends were definitely having trouble keeping up.

And you've yet to make a single valid point since you entered. :umad:
 

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The irony is that this thread is called higher learning but a lot of you guys aren't too bright. Simple things go over your head. I'm mocking you with silly questions according to your flawed logic and you're taking it literally. It's like talking to a child. Even worse. My son turns 4 on Sunday and even he is beginning to understand sarcasm and satire. :heh:

It's mind blowing how clueless some of you are. I honestly feel sorry for you.
but do u believe in a 'god' that was created by primitive humans tho

state your belief
 

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but why does it have to come down to that :yeshrug:

were talkin about blatant :duck: breh:. id be lyin if i said i respexcted itt. so why lie

Why does it come down to what? :patrice:

The only thing that was ducktales was the dudes in here tryna throw insults/jokes instead of formulating their arguments.
 

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The irony is that this thread is called higher learning but a lot of you guys aren't too bright. Simple things go over your head. I'm mocking you with silly questions according to your flawed logic and you're taking it literally. It's like talking to a child. Even worse. My son turns 4 on Sunday and even he is beginning to understand sarcasm and satire. :heh:

It's mind blowing how clueless some of you are. I honestly feel sorry for you.
Ad hominems? I don't yet understand those, I'm only 3 and a half years old
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I see no differentiation between the divine and the natural, as the natural is divine. And what you call coincidence I call divine intervention so I don't see any differentiation their either. Is it just a matter of semantics?

And this is the problem. You have no way to justify your position in saying that god wills the natural world. When skeptics or the scientific minded asks for an explaniation, theists often say "well, it's supernatural. It's beyond the scope of science, so it CAN'T be tested". To us who don't just accept theistic claims, that comes off as a cop-out. ....*Sigh* I don't wanna put words in your mouth, so could you please explain what you mean when you say divine? Or... could you just explain what you mean period?
 

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And this is the problem. You have no way to justify your position in saying that god wills the natural world. When skeptics or the scientific minded asks for an explaniation, theists often say "well, it's supernatural. It's beyond the scope of science, so it CAN'T be tested". To us who don't just accept theistic claims, that comes off as a cop-out. ....*Sigh* I don't wanna put words in your mouth, so could you please explain what you mean when you say divine? Or... could you just explain what you mean period?

Looking for scientific evidence of God is pointless because God isn't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Like I've said time and time again in this thread, I have no problem with anything you present scientifically. What I'm saying is there's more to it. Another realm that you're completely ignoring because you can't measure it scientifically. But science only describes the physical world and what we're discussing is beyond the physical so you're using the wrong instruments.

That's not a cop out, it's the reality of the situation. You lack the tools to conduct your desired tests. Not my problem. Especially when atheists are the ones who are mad about the situation.

I find it funny how atheists are willing to explore the furthest reaches of the universe in search for God when God is most often found internally. You only look at the surface but it's deeper than that and you conduct a million experiments but it's simpler than that.

But God makes himself manifest to whom He wills. I can only try to point you in the right direction. Open your heart first (I'm not referring to the physical organ) and you'll be amazed at what your eyes will see afterward. Gotta rid yourself of that hate and resentment though. If you seek the truth with honesty, it will find you. But if you choose to close your heart and mind you will never understand.

Like the guy in the video said, there is evidence of God all around you and within you. But I think you're looking for the wrong thing. :yeshrug:
 

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Looking for scientific evidence of Cthulu is pointless because Cthulu isn't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

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We're willing to explore. But we need something to go on. Or else we should entertain all supernatural ideas.
 

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Looking for scientific evidence of Cthulu is pointless because Cthulu isn't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Looking for scientific evidence of Thor is pointless because Thor isn't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Looking for scientific evidence of ghosts is pointless because ghosts aren't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Looking for scientific evidence of leprechauns is pointless because leprechauns aren't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Looking for scientific evidence of the Grim Reaper is pointless because the Grim Reaper isn't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Looking for scientific evidence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is pointless because the Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

Looking for scientific evidence of Invisible Pink Unicorns is pointless because the Invisible Pink Unicorns aren't in the physical universe. You're automatically setting yourself up for failure.

We're willing to explore. But we need something to go on. Or else we should entertain all supernatural ideas.

What purpose do flying spaghetti monsters and invisible pink unicorns serve?

And all of these things have physical representations suggesting that if they existed it actually would be in the physical.

And how can an invisible unicorn be pink? If it's not visible how can it have color?

You get 1 point for wit but sadly no points for actually making a valid point. But at least I understood what you tried to do there.
 
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