Why does Master P get a pass?

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pac and p toured together, they were boys. P was on his pac shyt for a little while but whatever, dudes the man. Even before he did his pac style he was nasty. Ice Cream man is one of his best albums. Ghettos Trying to Kill Me was dope, his TRU shyt is ill. Master P is dope, straight up legend
 

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Most of what he did throughout his career was biting and piggy backing off of what someone else already did. He lies about the amount of records he sold, he isn't that great of a rapper, half of his roster or more wasn't very good either, he stands for nothing but pushing a black mafia image yet he's one of the most respected that there ever was. From the ice cream man theft to lil' romeo trying to capitalize off of lil bow wow's success to switching from east bay style to the n.o. style etc. etc. People credit him with making movies but he wasn't the first, he wasn't the first to succeed independently and he didn't put n.o. hip hop on the map. Why does he get a pass? This aint a hate thread either for the record I just don't get it.
ok let me address this.

P gets a pass because he completely changed how hiphop/music is packaged and sold. NO one. let me let that marinate for a moment....

NO ONE has EVER had an entire SECTION of their labels music in a large retail store like P did. I'm from cali, I had to give him his due the moment i saw an entire No Limit Section in Best buy. Not one or two CD's sitting there. like 10 to 20. You can scoop up dudes/chicks you never heard of was even on no limit. i still think he was giving the locals like 1 off deals. like, ay you rap.. cool. if you have an album ready to go we're pushing it thru the NL label. if it pops we'll talk about a legit signing later. if not. we break bread together and we go our separate ways.

to pull that off as an independent was unheard of. even for white people.
And the speed in which he put music out (which he could do since the music was subpar coming from so many different no name rappers that were supposedly no limit artist(i doubt it. i i again think they had one off contracts). but him doing this. sped the entire industry up. This is the reason why people come with mixtapes and albums then mixtapes and albums. where you never have to wait 2 years for an album to drop. that use to be the old setup. a quick turnaround for an artists next album was lke 15 months TOPS. probably more than that. No limit turned that into 9 months. and you better give me a taste test with a mixtape while i wait.

Now this is another reason why music as a whole sucks now. people are putting out too much music too quickly. you're not giving your favorite artist enough time to physically and mentally grow up and get new material throught the aging process. if i drop an album when i'm 18, then another one when i'm 19. not much has changed in my life. i'm still getting at chicks on the daily, still drinking, still smoking. running wild.

but if my first album drops when i'm 18. and the next one hits when i'm 20. the truth is, i made the first album when i was 16 and 17 years old. now my abum that drops when i hit 20 i have lived a few years. things done changed in my life. so i have more experience to rap/sing about. i have a wider vision of whats going on in the world.
 

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Nothing anyone has posted in defense of No Limit excuses anything they did. Don't tell me it was ok for them to do what the did because they made money from it, because they were gangsters or because of their business model. While all of that may be true, fundamental Hip Hop principles were broken and in turn corrupted the entire genre.
 

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Because the nikka made 300 million straight from the dirt and made record companies give him a huge chunk of the profits for the records he sold.

That nikka will forever be a legend for that shyt and NOBODY will ever do that again


Didn't Cash Money do it after him?
 

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master p gotta be the only rapper that gets condemned for putting marketing ads in magazines.

nevermind the fact that he was working with half the promotion of his peers and the people that he outsold.:whistle:

i'll tell ya man. 90% of the master p hate is illogical & ridiculous.


the white man did a good job at programming alot of yall into hating on a black man making moves.

a masterful job.


fundamental Hip Hop principles were broken and in turn corrupted the entire genre.


all that stuff was already thrown to the bushes before no limit.

thats whats funny to me. yall will nitpick and try to find an issue with anything no limit-related, meanwhile, its dudes that yall hold in the highest regard on here that never get called out for doing the same chit or worse chit.

fact of the matter is, people didnt want to see some "country" niccas being the first to get it like they did. and the white man of course didnt want to see that chit at all. the result is shade thrown.

if no limit was based in new york, theyd be seen as goats.
 
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He stole make him say uhhh from this





he didnt steal chit. he sampled a record just like everybody else.

why is it that when master p samples something, hes stealing?

this the stuff im talkin bout man.:facepalm:


Didn't Cash Money have a similar deal?


cash money isnt as independent as no limit was.

they cut good ass deals tho.
 
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