Why does it seem that Black people can never get ahead in America?

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Time to stop with the opinions. and lets just look at the facts. Lets use good ole unions to make the point. pull up a chair. class in session.. READ EVERYTHING IN THAT LINK

http://www.iww.org/history/documents/misc/Tripp


Early History of Labor Movement

Since slavery Black workers have made collective efforts to better their condition through participation in the American labor movement. But this has always been difficult because of anti-Black racism. The anti-Black hostility in the American labor movement has deep historical roots. Contrary to the image of unions as promoters of interracial unity and class solidarity, their history demonstrates that they largely share the same racist values and attitudes as the rest of American society. As we shall see, White workers, in general, viewed Black workers as lower-wage competitors who threatened the security of their jobs and the social status of their occupations rather than as working class brothers. And their labor unions either excluded Black workers or segregated them in subordinate structures or relegated them to secondary roles.

The Dodge Revolutionary Union Movement (DRUM)

Our first organization of Black workers was called The Dodge Revolutionary Union Movement (DRUM). The principle organizer of DRUM was a ICV cadre member with a student history of radicalism who was employed at Chrysler's Dodge assembly plant in Hamtramck, a small city completely surrounded by Detroit. To provide a context for the emergence of DRUM, we should consider the concrete conditions that existed in 1968, conditions that generally prevailed throughout all industries.

At the Dodge assembly plant, Black workers constituted an estimated 60 percent of the work force, and virtually all were in low skilled and semi-skilled positions (See power structure figure). Black workers were almost invariably assigned to the most onerous and lowest paying jobs. Generally, as the proportion of Black workers grew in the factory, the working conditions tended to deteriorate. Tasks that had been performed by two White workers were assigned to one Black worker. Black workers characterized this as n**germation.

These harsh conditions in the plant reminded Black workers of their legacy of centuries of oppression under slavery. It was common for Black workers to use the analogy of the plantation to describe their awful working conditions and servile Black workers (toms) who kissed-up to their White bosses.
 

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Labor and race relations experts mention the following specific challenges facing African American job seekers: (a) they encounter racial bias while job-hunting; (b) their communities have weaker job networks in place; and (c) credit checks by potential employers often work against them.


The Unemployment Gap
Austin’s research indicates that there is a gap between African American and white employment levels even after taking into account educational achievement. Moreover, foreign-born Blacks face higher rates of unemployment than foreign-born whites, and Black teens face greater unemployment than their white peers.

“High unemployment across the board for Blacks indicates that there’s an element of racism to it,” says Steven Pitts, a labor policy specialist at the University of California, Berkeley. He says that racism in other sectors—housing, education, and the criminal justice system—compound the difficulties African Americans face in the labor market.

Austin points out, however, that bias is not the only factor undermining African Americans looking for work. Many companies don’t even advertise their openings.

Finding a job to apply for does depend on who you know,” he explains. “Do you know someone who knows someone who knows of a job opening? Blacks are less likely to, and this certainly disadvantages Black workers.”

The growing number of companies that check the credit histories of applicants during the hiring process also makes African Americans more vulnerable. The jobless tend not to have stellar credit ratings because being unemployed makes it difficult to pay bills in a timely fashion. Accordingly, credit checks mostly disadvantage African American applicants as this group of job hunters is most likely to be unemployed.

“People need a good job to reestablish their credit or to put them in a place where they can maintain good credit,” Austin says. “If their credit history is used to prevent them from getting a good job, it’s a Catch-22.”

Although the New York Times did mention that credit checks exacerbate discrimination against the unemployed, it failed to mention how it affected African American job-seekers disproportionately.

The media also have not touched on the role of criminal background checks. A Huffington Post piece, “Obama: Discrimination Against Jobless ‘Makes Absolutely No Sense,’” never mentions unemployment among African Americans. According to Pitts, incarceration keeps a large number of African Americans among the ranks of the jobless.

“The media need to tell the stories behind the numbers, so you can actually get a sense of Black work life, what are people’s histories in the labor markets,” Pitts says. “Featuring real life experiences begins to humanize the problem.”
 

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No offense OP, i didnt read any of that. Ima just leave this here: the black and white races will NEVER be able to peacefully co-habitate. NEVER. Simple as that. As long as we blame white race for everything, we will never "get ahead".
 
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No offense OP, i didnt read any of that. Ima just leave this here: the black and white races will NEVER be able to peacefully co-habitate. NEVER. Simple as that. As long as we are living amongst the white race, we will never "get ahead".
As long as we're 13% of the population and surrounded by majority white people in this country...yes.

WE can do all we want to try to succeed and excel...history has shown they'll do everything and anything possible to stop it. Don't say don't try... never did, they'll always be in the way.
 
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People like you need to leave this conversation...then again it's obvious you're white.

Why do you even listen to hip-hop if you can't even absorb anything from the black experience from it? Then again, this is what you do...project, deflect, and in turn reject anything of value in these conversations.

I'd prefer it if your ilk just stayed out of these conversations if you're not going to say anything constructive. Just. Do that. For future reference.
 

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People like you need to leave this conversation...then again it's obvious you're white.

Why do you even listen to hip-hop if you can't even absorb anything from the black experience from it? Then again, this is what you do...project, deflect, and in turn reject anything of value in these conversations.

I'd prefer it if your ilk just stayed out of these conversations if you're not going to say anything constructive. Just. Do that. For future reference.
why do you blame everything on white ppl? why do you always talk about the "white man"? half of the post on this forum "white man this white man that". Is it like that thing where the employees only talk about their bosses? It's amazing to see that after all these years the slave gene is still present
 

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As long as we're 13% of the population and surrounded by majority white people in this country...yes.

WE can do all we want to try to succeed and excel...history has shown they'll do everything and anything possible to stop it. Don't say don't try... never did, they'll always be in the way.

Which is why ultimately black people are gonna have to separate from cacs. Every where they are in control, we get oppressed. Not just in America, everywhere on the planet. It's why while I'm living in the US, I'd have to live in a city like Atlanta where blacks are in the majority and have some power. Even though there's still a lot of damn racism in this city (especially outside 285), you can pretty much avoid it since there's so many of us here.

But ultimately I gotta get the fukk outta this country. It's why I'm trying to stack up as much bread as I can so I can leave and never look back. For black people, America is a daily nightmare.
 
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why do you blame everything on white ppl? why do you always talk about the "white man"? half of the post on this forum "white man this white man that". Is it like that thing where the employees only talk about their bosses? It's amazing to see that after all these years the slave gene is still present
Yeah...whatever I could say is going to be lost on you here so all I have to tell you is look at the past half millenia of history and there's you're answer.
 

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why do you blame everything on white ppl? why do you always talk about the "white man"? half of the post on this forum "white man this white man that". Is it like that thing where the employees only talk about their bosses? It's amazing to see that after all these years the slave gene is still present

Too obvious that you are white. You could never understand man. No matter how hard we try to explain
 
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Which is why ultimately black people are gonna have to separate from cacs. Every where they are in control, we get oppressed. Not just in America, everywhere on the planet. It's why while I'm living in the US, I'd have to live in a city like Atlanta where blacks are in the majority and have some power. Even though there's still a lot of damn racism in this city (especially outside 285), you can pretty much avoid it since there's so many of us here.

But ultimately I gotta get the fukk outta this country. It's why I'm trying to stack up as much bread as I can so I can leave and never look back. For black people, America is a daily nightmare.

The bolded especially.

I honestly don't get the mentality of some black people in this country man. They complain about white racism daily, about white people daily, then when asked if they would move they just give you every answer in the book why they wouldn't. They really think America is going to stop being racist for one second when it's what has propelled this country to this point for 500 years. They really think white people are going to change...they can't live without them.

Like black folks have very little options in terms of living somewhere and prospering in America. You either live in a big city with a large black population where the cost of living is increasing and black folks are getting gentrified the fucc out...the south in a place like Atlanta where you're surrounded by racist white rednecks 45 minutes away. And that's it. The last thing I ever want to do is live in a suburb again surrounded by white people and feeling alienated everyday.

I just can't do this shyt anymore...even the simplest things here seem complex here due to racism as a black person in America.
 

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Separating from cacs does nothing to capitalism. Look at Africa.

If our communities were being funded, we could live in a White majority country just fine.
 

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Separating from cacs does nothing to capitalism. Look at Africa.

If our communities were being funded, we could live in a White majority country just fine.
Tell that to Black Wall Street. Or the Panthers. They ain't never going to allow that to happen.
 
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