Why does Israel SUCK so bad at diplomacy?

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:ehh: Serious question.


They have been in near constant war since they arrived there. They build walls to keep people out. They have to have checkpoints everywhere, and are basically a police state. So, what gives? What are their diplomats doing? Do they even have diplomats?

And please, for the love of Allah, let's not turn this into a "well, Arabs and Persians are just crazy and can't be rationed with" type arguement. EVERY country has diplomats. And where war happens, diplomacy has failed. My simple question is why does it fail so often by Israel. Are they just angelic and try so hard, but just can't seem to talk shiit out? What gives, brehs?
 

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because they are religious extremists

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Isreal is a not a jewish state per se. The religous jews still only make up 1/3 of the population. Isreal was created by millitant athiests from the jewish ghettos of Europe, do you know that the first settlements had pig farms? Pig farms only reduced in number when jews from arab countries became the majority in the 60's. Every major isreali politician and general from 1948 till recently were athiests.

Moshe dayan, shimon perez, ehud barak, Sharon, menachem begin, Rabin, shamir, david ben gurion the first prime minister and golda mier all athiests or agnostics definitely not practicers of Judaism.

Even Netanyahu is from the same background, but tones down his athiesm to appeal to the growing number of religous jews. Tzipi livni and Olmert do not hide their athiesm, in fact they are proud of it
 

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Isreal is a not a jewish state per se. The religous jews still only make up 1/3 of the population. Isreal was created by millitant athiests from the jewish ghettos of Europe, do you know that the first settlements had pig farms? Pig farms only reduced in number when jews from arab countries became the majority in the 60's. Every major isreali politician and general from 1948 till recently were athiests.

Moshe dayan, shimon perez, ehud barak, Sharon, menachem begin, Rabin, shamir, david ben gurion the first prime minister and golda mier all athiests or agnostics definitely not practicers of Judaism.

Even Netanyahu is from the same background, but tones down his athiesm to appeal to the growing number of religous jews. Tzipi livni and Olmert do not hide their athiesm but are proud of it.


Where do you learn such information about Israeli atheist politicians? I'm not being smart or sarcastic, I want to seriously know where you learned this from.
 

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their foreign minister is a moldovan night club bouncer, the fukk u expect? theyre not accountable to intl law, the fukk u expect?
 

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Where do you learn such information about Israeli atheist politicians? I'm not being smart or sarcastic, I want to seriously know where you learned this from.

oh man, you gotta read the bios of these people breh

like here's a few

The Real Rabin / by Uri Avnery

another from a book:

"Even atheist and socialist Israelis like David Ben-Gurion, Moshe Dayan, and Golda Meir were marked by the stories and legends of King David and the prophets. In other words, their lives had been shaped by Hebron."
Giulio Meotti, A New Shoah: The Untold Story of Israel's Victims of Terrorism, page 113.

they'll count as jews ethnically, i guess but religious wise, forget it. Israel has one of the biggest percentage of atheist/agnostic populations in a country in the world.
 

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Yeah, no. Israel IS a Jewish state. Cmon son.

If we're talking ethnicially Jewish, sure. But..

Israel is mostly a secular country and maybe only 1/3 are actually Jewish, Jewish i.e. practicing, using Jewish law, etc.

These PMs and leaders are as Jewish as the nikka on the street here
 
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If we're talking ethnicially Jewish, sure. But..

Israel is mostly a secular country and maybe only 1/3 are actually Jewish, Jewish i.e. practicing, using Jewish law, etc.

These PMs and leaders are as Jewish as the nikka on the street here

What does a Ethnic Jew look like? Last time I checked these German men have Slav and Turk in their blood...nothing from the original book.
 
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