Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

[BlaKcMoney]

mixed brothas have always been the greatest black leaders

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

You're posting Tuaregs and Fulani who have a different type of Cac (berber) admixture.----> Anthromadness: Revisiting Dobon et al. 2015: The Fulani Samples


Post the West/West Central Aframs that Aframs descend from in higher numbers and show me the light skins

you still wanna stick to that? Again, those soccer player approximate the most common stocks and looks that were on the slave ships, so let's compare them to Aframs. Not Tuaregs and Fulanis although Aframs do have some of that in the mix but not enough to dictate the phenotypes to the same degree as the other African types.

-sure they do....according to your dumbass all blacks whom don't fit into box/standard you have set for pure negros are somehow mixed with caveman somewhere down the down the line. whether or not you can prove it i wonder how all those lightskin Fulani deep in the heart of West Central Africa, (Ngieria, Central African Republic, Ghana,etc) managed to get so admixed with North African Berbersregardless ethnic/Berbers-/indigenous North Africans are far from Caucasian
The True Negro (2a): The Berbers (Moors)

-didn't know you were present during the Trans Atlantic slave trade and keeping tabs on the percent of each African ethnic group and their phenotype shipped to the Americas

upon a quick google search look what i foundthis slave log suggest Berbers(Moors) and Fulani/Fulbe were among the most prominent African ethnic groups brought to Louisiana from 1719-1820:

Louisiana: most African diversity within the United States?

bbbut didn't you imply Fulani and Tuareg weren't significant contributors to AAs genepool

and i repeat the phenotype of those West African soccer players are very common among the contemporary AA population...you do realize most AAs aint light skin right

i already did and you conveniently ignored it

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/19524959/

 

[CinnaSlim]

so malcolm x isnt black according to these ignorant standards

Malcolm X's mom is biracial not white.

@bmack21 And @Versa
So, im one of the peeps who advocate acknowledging Biracials as biracial. That doesnt exclude them from being "down for the cause" because they are still partially black.

Let's just call a spade a spade. They are not black. Theyre biracial. Theyre mixed. They are black and white.

If I ask for my coffee black and you give me light and sweet. Is it still black? Is a liger still a lion? Or a tiger? Is green still blue even if its half yellow?

We'll be arguing this forever because I guess its up to ideology. I wouldnt oppose calling Obama the first biracial president or the first Black president. He is the most black president we've had. Others before him also have black blood but not in such a significant amount.

Point being, race to me is a gradient not a binary thing.

 

[BlaKcMoney]

Malcolm X's mom is biracial not white.

@bmack21 And @Versa
So, im one of the peeps who advocate acknowledging Biracials as biracial. That doesnt exclude them from being "down for the cause" because they are still partially black.

Let's just call a spade a spade. They are not black. Theyre biracial. Theyre mixed. They are black and white.


Point being, race to me is a gradient not a binary thing.

malcom x is mixed because he has white people in his ancestry. So according to your logic he is biracial,mixed and not black. That's pure ignorance

Race has nothing to do with color and everything to do with BLOODLINE. Go over to africa and see that they don't give a damn about you being black. They want to know what your BLOODLINE is. Everyone in the world is brown except for white people, so if you can't see that color doesn't determine identity your still lost in the confusion that white supremacy taught you.

 

[BlaKcMoney]

it about your paternal bloodline. The seed of the nation lives in the father.

If george bush has a child with whoopi goldberg, even though that child comes out black, its tribal identity is that of its fathers! The child is cave seed.

If a black man gets with a white woman, the child is the tribe of the father.

This "mixed" "biracial" shyt is a concoction of white supremacists to keep us ignorant and lost

 

[OfTheCross]

This thread should be in The Root. Mods slacking

 

[Emoryal]

malcom x is mixed because he has white people in his ancestry. So according to your logic he is biracial,mixed and not black. That's pure ignorance

Race has nothing to do with color and everything to do with BLOODLINE. Go over to africa and see that they don't give a damn about you being black. They want to know what your BLOODLINE is. Everyone in the world is brown except for white people, so if you can't see that color doesn't determine identity your still lost in the confusion that white supremacy taught you.

Bro, I see the point you're trying to make, but stop. You're making up shyt.

 

[ℒine ☈acks]

malcom x is mixed because he has white people in his ancestry. So according to your logic he is biracial,mixed and not black. That's pure ignorance

Race has nothing to do with color and everything to do with BLOODLINE. Go over to africa and see that they don't give a damn about you being black. They want to know what your BLOODLINE is. Everyone in the world is brown except for white people, so if you can't see that color doesn't determine identity your still lost in the confusion that white supremacy taught you.

 

[CinnaSlim]

malcom x is mixed because he has white people in his ancestry. So according to your logic he is biracial,mixed and not black. That's pure ignorance

Race has nothing to do with color and everything to do with BLOODLINE. Go over to africa and see that they don't give a damn about you being black. They want to know what your BLOODLINE is. Everyone in the world is brown except for white people, so if you can't see that color doesn't determine identity your still lost in the confusion that white supremacy taught you.

You are contradicting yourself. I didnt mention race being defined by color. My whole convo on this topic is about bloodlines.

Race is subjective and defined differently in different places as stated in my previous post. Malcolm X is mixed but so are many AAs. Point is, he is majority/significantly black.

 

[CinnaSlim]

it about your paternal bloodline. The seed of the nation lives in the father.

If george bush has a child with whoopi goldberg, even though that child comes out black, its tribal identity is that of its fathers! The child is cave seed.

If a black man gets with a white woman, the child is the tribe of the father.

This "mixed" "biracial" shyt is a concoction of white supremacists to keep us ignorant and lost

According to whom? Race is different than tribe. Secondly, not every tribe goes by paternal lineage. Some go by maternal because theres no way to deny who your mother is unlike b*stard children.

 

[BlaKcMoney]

According to whom? Race is different than tribe. Secondly, not every tribe goes by paternal lineage. Some go by maternal because theres no way to deny who your mother is unlike b*stard children.

black is a racial construct created by white supremacists. There is no such thing as a "black race".

Most tribes and kingdoms have always went by the paternal lineage because they all know that life and identity begin with the living seed of the father. That is why kingdoms are always passed down to sons through their fathers. The greatest gift a woman can give is a son to carry on the family IDENTITY. The woman becomes subject to her husband, which is why to this day the woman takes the last name of her husband and becomes a part of HIS tribe.

The cave dwellers separated the world according to color, lets not continue following their false doctrines.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

-sure they do....according to your dumbass all blacks whom don't fit into box/standard you have set for pure negros are somehow mixed with caveman somewhere down the down the line. whether or not you can prove it

I didn't say there was a true negro type but it goes w/o saying that they the diversity only goes to a certain point w/o admx

i wonder how all those lightskin Fulani deep in the heart of West Central Africa, (Ngieria, Central African Republic, Ghana,etc) managed to get so admixed with North African Berbersregardless ethnic/Berbers-/indigenous North Africans are far from Caucasian
The True Negro (2a): The Berbers (Moors)

Fulani origins

The ancestors of the Fulani, among other groups, seem to have been pushed from the Sahara southward at the onset of its desertification around the third millennium B.C. Established in southern Mauritania at the beginning of the Christian era, Fulani people developed a strong presence in Futa Toro in Senegambia from the fifth to the eleventh century. From there, they migrated further east.

Traces of Fulani Culture in Tassili
Examination of certain rock paintings in the Tassili-n-Ajjer suggests the presence of proto-Fulani cultural traits in the region by at least the fourth millennium B.C. Scholars specializing in Fulani culture believe that some of the imagery depicts rituals that are still practiced by contemporary Fulani people.

At the Tin Tazarift site, for instance, historian Amadou Hampate Ba recognized a scene of the lotori ceremony, a celebration of the ox’s aquatic origin. In a finger motif, Ba detected an allusion to the myth of the hand of the first Fulani herdsman, Kikala. At Tin Felki, Ba recognized a hexagonal carnelian jewel as related to the Agades cross, a fertility charm still used by Fulani women.

The Fulani/Fulbe People | Essay | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art

-didn't know you were present during the Trans Atlantic slave trade and keeping tabs on the percent of each African ethnic group and their phenotype shipped to the Americas

There are plenty of records and information on what tribes were shipped to the new world and their phenotypes

upon a quick google search look what i foundthis slave log suggest Berbers(Moors) and Fulani/Fulbe were among the most prominent African ethnic groups brought to Louisiana from 1719-1820:

Louisiana: most African diversity within the United States?

bbbut didn't you imply Fulani and Tuareg weren't significant contributors to AAs genepool

They were apart part of the gene pool for sure but just look at their numbers compared to the overall Afram gene pool and you'll see why they weren't as significant

and i repeat the phenotype of those West African soccer players are very common among the contemporary AA population...you do realize most AAs aint light skin right

we're talking range of complexions + phenotypes. There is a reason why Aframs commonly state someone looks "African" to them even when compared to dark skinned Aframs

i already did and you conveniently ignored it

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/19524959/[/QUOTE]

I didn't ignore it...I already smoke on it




http://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-...-people-as-black.434595/page-26#post-19527807

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-...-people-as-black.434595/page-26#post-19527813


.....c'mon use common sense. Aframs can pick out darker West Indians from Aframs, who like Aframs, also have admx, so of course they can spot continental Africans.

 

[BlaKcMoney]

Bro, I see the point you're trying to make, but stop. You're making up shyt.

every culture in the world began with dark brown skin. Africa, India, Spain, Japan, Phillipines, Australian. Look at the aboriginies on every continent, they are dark skinned people.

They identified themselves by ancestry not by COLOR. This is my only point.

like i said. George Bush can bed a black women and pop out a brown baby. That baby's identity is not determined by his color but by his father's tribal ancestry.

That baby is a brown cac. All cac's aren't "white" and all nikkas aren't "black".

On the flip side take Blake griffin. His dad is AA so he is AA and if he has children with a white woman no matter how light the children are they are still AA. Even if all his sons marry white women perpetually until they look like white people, those children are still AA

 

[IllmaticDelta]

it about your paternal bloodline. The seed of the nation lives in the father.

If george bush has a child with whoopi goldberg, even though that child comes out black, its tribal identity is that of its fathers! The child is cave seed.

If a black man gets with a white woman, the child is the tribe of the father.

This "mixed" "biracial" shyt is a concoction of white supremacists to keep us ignorant and lost

 

[GreatestLaker]

every culture in the world began with dark brown skin. Africa, India, Spain, Japan, Phillipines, Australian. Look at the aboriginies on every continent, they are dark skinned people.

They identified themselves by ancestry not by COLOR. This is my only point.

like i said. George Bush can bed a black women and pop out a brown baby. That baby's identity is not determined by his color but by his father's tribal ancestry.

That baby is a brown cac. All cac's aren't "white" and all nikkas aren't "black".

On the flip side take Blake griffin. His dad is AA so he is AA and if he has children with a white woman no matter how light the children are they are still AA. Even if all his sons marry white women perpetually until they look like white people, those children are still AA

Blake Griffin's father is Haitian, not African-American. And you're one stupid motherfukker. I hope you know that.