90% of beats nowadays are either trap or pete rock copycats. very few producers stray from the norm or even put a twist on what everyone else does. I just dont see how so many people do this stuff religiously yet never differentiate their style. I feel like ppl who do that are just trying to make as many beats as possible to get paid or get attention, even though the best producers usually are very creative, thus why theyre the best. Making good different music is hard and not everyone can do it, an its usually not as profitable, but just for the love of music and making your own creations i think you should make music that comes from the heart and not just cookie cutter flavor of the day beats. And im not tryin to act righteous or above everyone im still tryin to really get things goin like most ppl but thats just a big gripe i have with hip hop.
Why do producers always borrow from eachothers style?
- Thread starter ryshy
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The problem 90% of the time is that rappers don't want to take chances.
Labels don't want to take chances
So many times me, or other dudes I know have made beats that change it up but I always get the same shyt.
on some ol "oh, I think that is dope but I'm gonna take this one from you instead cuz it sounds more like...."
or
"yo, you got anything like that *insert latest single*??)
or
"I'm looking for some trap beats.....can you add an 808 to that beat or something"
I Find that rappers are the ones stagnating most of the creativity.....that and everyone from the south (lol, I kid.......kinda)
Labels don't want to take chances
So many times me, or other dudes I know have made beats that change it up but I always get the same shyt.
on some ol "oh, I think that is dope but I'm gonna take this one from you instead cuz it sounds more like...."
or
"yo, you got anything like that *insert latest single*??)
or
"I'm looking for some trap beats.....can you add an 808 to that beat or something"
I Find that rappers are the ones stagnating most of the creativity.....that and everyone from the south (lol, I kid.......kinda)
Real shyt, i started realizing this recently and it does suck, i try to keep my shyt good yet diffrent so ppl cant deny thatthebeat is good. But just trying to be different is risky enough so i see why ppl take the profitable route. For mei cant do it, just because it feels wrong to me, sometimes i try to put a twist on traditional styles an thatusuallyworks
Too many ppl rappers are afraid to take a chance. Only big rappers seem to be able to do it.
the worst part is the ones who blow up usually are the ones who took chances
only dudes who get far are either extreme hustlers while still being good artists, or are well connected, or are just dirty spitters. All these young cats dont realize it takes flair to be popular, you gotta have character, personality, and a distinct style, not just be an average rapper over standard beats. I think they all just look for the next hit instead of constantly just trying to get better, which starts this vicious cycle weve outlined.
the ep that me and my boy doing going have some different shyt...trust
Yeah Record labels will only go after what's making money for them. If there was 100 emcees that were speaking real life situations and speaking consciously; but it made them as much or more money, then record labels would shift to that. Look at it as a day job, if your boss is telling you to do this report a certain way and you do it another way, why would they want to keep you around they are going to find someone who fits there company. It's the same thing with music. There is a way to be original and be commercial at the same time. However that only arises after work that has been proven to be successful in the market. If you truly want to do what you want when you want, my advice would be to go into business for yourself and sell that, that way you are true to what you want to do and when you want to do it. Mind you even then there will be some disagreements at times, but I think that will give you the freedom you seek.
At the end of the day to these labels it isn't about whats good or what's bad what's riotous or immoral, it's about what makes them the most money and how quickly they can generate that money.
I think this guy is on the right lane
DevanteCash
Donnie Darko
Gotta start some where. Producers will find their sound eventually. It takes time.
EddyBlazeBeatz
EddyBlazebeatz aka Junior
because they dont experiment with their identity and find out where they want to take their sound. They just google every tutorial possible on how to make a beat. The production/creativity takes many many years to develop. So creative that you can go back to the stash from 2 years ago and say to yourself " what the fukk was I doing here, it sounds like I was trying to do this... so let me flip it " your able to know exactly why you went that route because youve matured. Im sick of trap beats and Im feelin the samplin because everything on the radio is chopped up from somewhere else from every kick to every snare. Take something you know and make it better, plain and simple.
EddyBlazeBeatz
EddyBlazebeatz aka Junior
dope sounds, at first I was like nahh he just got some sounds but not really sounding cohesive to each other. Then he sped it up that made all the difference. pretty cool beat though.
BlackDroog
All Star
Sometimes being too "Different" turns people off, so you got to give them something they are familiar with to bring them in at first.
Then when they are feeling your shyt...you hit them over the head with some next level shyt. But no matter what you do, you can always add your own spin to it to distinguish your own style. RZA, Neptunes, Swizz, Timbaland, Havoc...all had very unique sounds early in thier careers even though they weren't doing anything revolutionary.
And speaking of "different" and "Next Level"....Check this out...
http://blackdroogmusick.bandcamp.com/releases
Then when they are feeling your shyt...you hit them over the head with some next level shyt. But no matter what you do, you can always add your own spin to it to distinguish your own style. RZA, Neptunes, Swizz, Timbaland, Havoc...all had very unique sounds early in thier careers even though they weren't doing anything revolutionary.
And speaking of "different" and "Next Level"....Check this out...
http://blackdroogmusick.bandcamp.com/releases
I think the biggest problem is that too many people focus on labels instead of just appreciating how dope something is. nikkas be so quick to shyt on trap beats like that doesn't take talent and effort to create. 
I've heard plenty of bland ass simple sample beats and people don't seem to shyt on that sub genre of production as much. I judge and listen to every beat on its own merit. We would truly miss out on some dope music if we were to judge shyt just because it might be a representation of a certain sound in hip-hop.
I think a lot of producers aren't versatile or skilled enough to create great trap beats that stand apart from it's peers and I think a lot of emcees can't spit passionately enough while maintaining their lyricism to really rip those types of tracks. People get so used to these random trap nikkas spitting struggle bars over these beats that they begin to think everything about that genre is dumbed down and wack.
Thank god I don't discriminate and spit fire over soul samples as well as trap beats.
Hip-hop would be pretty boring if nobody took chances and dudes just worried about what other nikkas think to the point of playing it safe.
I've heard plenty of bland ass simple sample beats and people don't seem to shyt on that sub genre of production as much. I judge and listen to every beat on its own merit. We would truly miss out on some dope music if we were to judge shyt just because it might be a representation of a certain sound in hip-hop.I think a lot of producers aren't versatile or skilled enough to create great trap beats that stand apart from it's peers and I think a lot of emcees can't spit passionately enough while maintaining their lyricism to really rip those types of tracks. People get so used to these random trap nikkas spitting struggle bars over these beats that they begin to think everything about that genre is dumbed down and wack.
Thank god I don't discriminate and spit fire over soul samples as well as trap beats.
Hip-hop would be pretty boring if nobody took chances and dudes just worried about what other nikkas think to the point of playing it safe.
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Whats different tho?
The same reason why rappers borrow. The same reason why actors, directors, nba players, and even groupies borrow from what has made others successful.
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