Why do Chinese people take offense when they hear how good of a country Japan is?

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Even without the war crimes, I just never really vibed with their culture personally. But after reading up on their actions during WW2 it really made me give them the :camby:. I was even at a Japanese girl's house back in high school and her mom was making disparaging remarks about us, not knowing that I was Chinese. I listened for a minute before telling her that the feelings were mutual :steviej:. I take everybody on a person by person basis, but all of them have always rubbed me just a little bit funny, even if they were decent people. Like I said earlier, their culture has a lot of repressed anger. Just like white people, I know that many of them probably grew up in

racist/nationalistic households. Either that or they're just extremely passive about their shyt, which I don't like either.


I feel like as far as Chinese and black issues go, it's more an issue of cultural differences not really being understood. Blacks say we're stinky and we say they're loud, but Japs and cacs say those things about both of us with their noses in the air. Blacks want acknowledgement of the atrocities committed against them but will :cape:for the Japanese, who's perverted and passive aggressive people act just like Cac's.

Again, I take everybody on a case by case basis, but I may just have a genetic aversion to them in general.




Li Shufeng, 89, attends a ceremony to observe the 75th anniversary of the… (Diego Azubel / EPA )
This month 75 years ago, the people of Nanking, China's ancient capital city, were in the midst of one of the worst atrocities in history, the infamous Rape of Nanking. The truth of what actually happened is at the center of a bitter dispute between China and Japan that continues to play out in present-day relations. Many Chinese see Japan's election last month of ultraconservative nationalist Shinzo Abe as prime minister as just the latest in a string of insults. And it was recently reported that Japan is considering rolling back its 1993 apology regarding "comfort women," the thousands of women the Japanese army sexually enslaved during World War II.

In 1937, the Japanese Imperial Army, captured Nanking on Dec. 13. No one knows the exact toll the Japanese soldiers exacted on its citizens, but a postwar Allied investigation put the numbers at more than 200,000 killed and at least 20,000 women and girls raped in the six weeks after the city fell.

In 2006, we traveled to China and to Japan to interview victims and soldiers who took part in the massacre. One former Japanese soldier explained, without a hint of regret: "We all drew straws, and the man who pulled out the one marked first, he brushed off her face tenderly and treated her pretty, yes, and then proceeded to rape her. As their daughter was being raped, the parents would come outside and gesture to us, 'Please spare her!' They'd bang their heads on the ground and plead with us. We'd take one girl and five of us would hold her down."

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In China, a 79-year-old man tearfully described how, at 9 years old, he watched a soldier bayonet his mother to death as she breast fed his brother. Another man saw his 13-year-old sister sliced in half by a Japanese soldier after she resisted being raped. Elderly women told harrowing stories of the rapes they endured as young girls.

It was the mass rapes in Nanking and the brutalization of an entire populace that eventually convinced Japanese military leaders that they needed to contain the chaos. Japanese soldiers began rounding up women and forcing them to serve as sex slaves in so-called comfort stations.

This is what most historians believe. But not in Japan, where a large faction of conservatives, led by Abe, denies that the Japanese military forced women into sexual slavery. They maintain that any suggestion to the contrary is simply anti-Japanese propaganda and probably spread by China. At the furthest end of the spectrum, the minimizing turns to flat-out denial; one professor we interviewed at a top Japanese university adamantly insisted there were no killings or rapes in Nanking.

Not surprisingly, all this minimizing and denial enrages the Chinese and others in Asia. But this is a familiar pattern.

Abe has visited the controversial Yasukuni shrine in Tokyo and has said he plans to visit again as prime minister. This is the place where the souls of more than 2 million Japanese war dead are said to be enshrined. Among them are 14 men convicted at the end of World War II of what are known as Class-A war crimes, including Iwane Matsui, the general who led Japanese forces in Nanking. To the Chinese, every visit by an official is like ripping open an unhealed wound. Former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi went there six times, and his 2005 visit resulted in anti-Japanese riots in China.

It's also informative to walk just a few yards to the Yushukan, the museum affiliated with the Yasukuni shrine. There, as we surveyed the exhibits on the Great East Asian War (World War II to much of the rest of the world), we were surprised to learn that Franklin D. Roosevelt had forced Japan to go to war in a calculated effort to lift the U.S. out of the Depression. (This exhibit was recently revised to omit the Depression reference; now it just says the U.S. forced Japan into bombing Pearl Harbor.)

Then there's the exhibit that argues that Japan's "entry into" other Asian countries was simply an effort to help them throw off the yoke of Western colonization. The museum claims that the Japanese leaders who were tried as war criminals were heroic. A tiny section on Nanking makes no mention of atrocities.

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All this revisionism is interspersed with militaristic displays. And crucially, these are not a handful of dusty exhibits in an out-of-the-way place; the Yasukuni complex occupies 25 acres of prime Tokyo real estate.

Fueled by such an aggrieved interpretation of Japan's wartime past, Abe and his party are leading efforts to amend Article 9 of the nation's postwar constitution, which mandates that Japan not maintain a standing army. This comes at a time of escalating tension with China, much of it focused on the Senkaku islands. And Abe's government is considering revising what is known as the Kono Statement, a 1993 apology Japan made for the comfort women, an issue of great meaning to China and other nations that had women forced into sexual slavery.
 
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So me and the bro was in a uber last night and was chopping it up about what countries we'd like to visit this year.
So the uber driver informed us that he's about to scoop up someone else, asian chick jumps in and we continue our convo. I start talking about how Japan is on my bucket list and whatever.
Then asian chick butts into our convo and asks us what's so great about Japan?
I'm like well for starters they're generally more accepting of other 'people'(:mjpls:) compared to other asian countries

Then i ask her where she from, obviously she's butt hurt from my response cuz she responds in a butt hurt tone like, obviously not from Japan

I'm like um ok i wasnt implying that you were:skip:

Then she's like i'm from China

Uber looking at me through the rearview mirror like :lolbron:
They had a war where a lot of people died. My wifes family had to flee their village because they were coming through killing the men, raping the women and torturing people. Her grandmother got her arm chopped off.

Suffice to say, they dont like Japanese people.

I spoke to my mother in law through translation about japan getting nuk3d by the US and she said

"good" "to bad they lived"

The pain goes deep
 

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Korean chick bad as fukk

Koreans are just as bad if not worse than the Japanese when it comes to racism. The Chinese are to Asian culture what blacks are to the whole world. We're both originators but also get it the worst when it comes to treatment from the cultures that we birthed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_South_Korea

Racism permeates many levels of South Korean society, from education to employment. Children born to South Korean mothers and American fathers often are mistreated by students at schools,[5][6][7] and black American expatriates often are denied employment due to the color of their skin, a form of discrimination that is actually legal under South Korean law.
 
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Koreans are just as bad if not worse than the Japanese when it comes to racism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_South_Korea

I know you my ni hao breh but I'm just admiring the beaurty . my cuz married a black and Korean chick and her Asian side of the family is hella cool ( even tried kimchi :obama:) but I know the majority of Asians prolly see me as a no good browse aroun and never buy nothing ass nikka. Its just the way the world works:to:
 

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I thought about unquoting your post because I realized it didn't really have to do with their culture. I was just using it as a springboard to note that I've heard from people that have visited S. Korea that their culture is extremely biased as well. She is the baddest of the bunch though lol

I know you my ni hao breh but I'm just admiring the beaurty . my cuz married a black and Korean chick and her Asian side of the family is hella cool ( even tried kimchi :obama:) but I know the majority of Asians prolly see me as a no good browse aroun and never buy nothing ass nikka. Its just the way the world works:to:
 

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Did you pay no attention in history class? :dwillhuh:


How the hell do you not know this?:mindblown:


Japan and China have one of the top beefs of all time.

Be black and care about Asian beefs when the school system won't even teach anything about Blacks/Africa that is not related to slavery brehs
:camby:
 

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I don't know....same way Nazi Germany was a complete no-go for Blacks but, now its one of the most accepting places in Europe
the thing i dont get is, while most germans (exclusing neo nazis) see their shameful history for what it is and hold reconciliation events and programs and shyt for decades for those affected by nazism, its only recently that japan has recognised these attrocities and some still worship their genocidal ancestors.
 

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They're still choosing to deny what they did during the war. They're considering rescinding their apology to the Chinese they used as sex slaves and are still actively pushing to have text books that don't acknowledge their role or atrocities during WW2.

the thing i dont get is, while most germans (exclusing neo nazis) see their shameful history for what it is and hold reconciliation events and programs and shyt for decades for those affected by nazism, its only recently that japan has recognised these attrocities and some still worship their genocidal ancestors.
 

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Talk to any black dude that's been in the military and been to Germany. They'll tell you.

My father was in the Air Force and has traveled every inch of the globe for free basically (which I'm jealous of) and even he told me Germany was straight.


This is true....I was living in Germany for a few years while I was in the military..... Germany is a marriage killer and a black man's heaven
 

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They're still choosing to deny what they did during the war. They're considering rescinding their apology to the Chinese they used as sex slaves and are still actively pushing to have text books that don't acknowledge their role or atrocities during WW2.

They have also threatened museums in japan who show the atrocities that their nation has committed. It's a sad state of affairs going on in Japan.
 
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