Why Did Nas Not Rap Over The Genesis?

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

idk

AZ rapped on it

I never liked Genesis until you posted this prime example of why instrumentals by themselves are weak


Genesis was always the weak link for me in Illmatic I never understood the point of the track and never enjoyed the grating instrumental I actually enjoyed one time for your mind better I always skip Genesis but this thread has given me a slightly better understanding of its context.

 

[tuckgod]

Elzhi killed it.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Him putting that beat first on the album did all the talking for him

I don’t get it

 

[DaveyDave]

I don’t get it

you must be young AF or never watched Wild Style as a young'n

 

[tuckgod]

I don’t get it

By ‘94, hip hop had already began flirting with the mainstream and was starting to lose its way.

Nas puttin that beat from Wildstyle first was a bat signal to the heads that he was one of them.

He was looked at as the true savior of hip hop which is why older heads was so offended when he came back with IWW.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

you must be young AF or never watched Wild Style as a young'n

I’m 31 and from the UK

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

By ‘94, hip hop had already began flirting with the mainstream and was starting to lose its way.

Nas puttin that beat from Wildstyle first was a bat signal to the heads that he was one of them.

He was looked at as the true savior of hip hop which is why older heads was so offended when he came back with IWW.

thanks for the breakdown
It all fits together now

rep

 

[tuckgod]

thanks for the breakdown
It all fits together now

rep

 

[DaveyDave]

I’m 31 and from the UK

Being in the UK means nothing. I’m 38 and from Australia and have watches Wild Style dozens of times, had the video and DVD 20+ years ago etc. Most of the Hip Hop heads and artists in Oz my age and the generation or 2 before me cite Beat Street, Wild Style and Style Wars among other early Hip Hop movies as huge influences in their early days of Hip Hop in the early to mid 80s. Wild Style is not an obscure movie that you can’t find anywhere.

 

[ISO]

you must be young AF or never watched Wild Style as a young'n

I swear they said Wild Style was rare as fukk and it was hard for them to get a copy of the VHS to loop it. Faith Newman gave Nas her copy of the tape and he never gave it back.

That was some old school shyt for Jungle a teen at the time who thought the beat was dated and garbage. So Idk if everyone saw this movie especially outside of New York. Most hip hop consumers of the time probably never saw it. If anything Nas and the artists who sampled it gave it extra life for people like you to go back and study it. But it was not some regularly watched or accessible tape.

 

[drugxglory]

Yo, he drinkin this straight up wit no chaser, i aint fukkin wit chu nikka

 

[DaveyDave]

I swear they said Wild Style was rare as fukk and it was hard for them to get a copy of the VHS to loop it. Faith Newman gave Nas her copy of the tape and he never gave it back.

That was some old school shyt for Jungle a teen at the time who thought the beat was dated and garbage. So Idk if everyone saw this movie especially outside of New York. Most hip hop consumers of the time probably never saw it. If anything Nas and the artists who sampled it gave it extra life for people like you to go back and study it. But it was not some regularly watched or accessible tape.

In 94 it might have been hard to actually get a copy, dubs of dubs of dubs wouldn’t be good enough sound quality to put on an album about to be released to the world. But for dude in the post, he should have no problem getting it any time in the past 20 years and IMO any Hip Hop head worth anything should have seen it at least once.

 

[boskey]

I swear they said Wild Style was rare as fukk and it was hard for them to get a copy of the VHS to loop it. Faith Newman gave Nas her copy of the tape and he never gave it back.

That was some old school shyt for Jungle a teen at the time who thought the beat was dated and garbage. So Idk if everyone saw this movie especially outside of New York. Most hip hop consumers of the time probably never saw it. If anything Nas and the artists who sampled it gave it extra life for people like you to go back and study it. But it was not some regularly watched or accessible tape.

Yup. I've seen the dude Dart Adams talk about this on twitter. Wild Style was not in circulation until like 1999. You had to order it from the back of a magazine for like 80 bucks which was a crazy amount for vhs tape in the 90's...

 

[Ziggiy]

The copy of Wild Style that was used for the Genesis was a dubbed copy that Nas himself owned and brought to the studio

 

[ISO]

The copy of Wild Style that was used for the Genesis was a dubbed copy that Nas himself owned and brought to the studio

He didn’t own it Faith Newman gave it to him and he never returned it

Nas saw Wild Style with his dad as a child in theaters in 1982 when it came out.