Why did most Hip-Hop producers still use MPC's and SP-1200's in the 90's???

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Why did most Hip-Hop producers still use MPC's and SP-1200's in the 90's???

In the 80's those samplers made sense but in the 90's it was already dated i think. I guess Hip-Hop producers didn't adapt when Cubase first came out?
I mean: i hear a lot of great House music from the 90's and those where already made with software/DAW's???
So why didn't Hip-Hop producers in general jump on this technology from the start?
Can y'all name some Hip-Hop producers that made they beats on software in the 90's???

DAW's where around all through out the 90's...

 

[Wildin]

My personal opinion is that the grooves were easy to get and are still hard to match today. It's like they had to formula and if it wasn't broke don't fix it. I imagine if you went to various producers cribs or studios they had familiar gear, they probably weren't rocking daws like that. Then daws started to gain steam and with copiers and burners it became easier to obtain newer versions of daws than cop the new mpc or any new piece of equipment (at this point I'm talking about different softwares logic soundforge audacity reason cool edit etc) Also there is something about beat making that makes people want to do it but not with the same mentality or thought process like "I'm going to learn how to play piano or drums or bass" take a majority of people to a music store and show them those instruments and you might not get a lot of bites, especially from inner city youth, yet show them a drum machine or how the sp-12 can churn out something and you've got new bait. Of course if they ever want to be great they will have to learn music eventually but not everyone wants to make that commitment.

Why did most Hip-Hop producers still use MPC's and SP-1200's in the 90's???

In the 80's those samplers made sense but in the 90's it was already dated i think. I guess Hip-Hop producers didn't adapt when Cubase first came out?
I mean: i hear a lot of great House music from the 90's and those where already made with software/DAW's???
So why didn't Hip-Hop producers in general jump on this technology from the start?
Can y'all name some Hip-Hop producers that made they beats on software in the 90's???

DAW's where around all through out the 90's...

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

I don't know.
Even when i had the MV-8800, i still did my drums by "Step Editing" cause it was more precise.

 

[Wepa Man]

Swing and grits of the drums

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Swing and grits of the drums

nah, that can't be it.
That could be replicated with software easily already.

 

[GPBear]

Software's been looked down upon until like maybe Obama's election. 9th Wonder made beats on Fruityloops and got trashed.

Then you have Roger Linn factor, where the select few mpcs got the special kiss from the god himself, it's not like he was running to protools giving them codes.

Also, good luck loading up a file from an old DAW. And obviously the SP-1200 half-unplugging a channel's patch cord is still the illest way to filter basslines in the business as far as I'm concerned. I think the main thing was SP-1200s/hardware you get limited sample time. So it's not that people weren't using DAWs, it's that if you're forced to come up with 10 second beats your stuff is going to be more creative than the guy who's using the unlimited software.

 

[Wepa Man]

nah, that can't be it.
That could be replicated with software easily already.

hmmm not all the way

 

[Wepa Man]

Software's been looked down upon until like maybe Obama's election. 9th Wonder made beats on Fruityloops and got trashed.

Then you have Roger Linn factor, where the select few mpcs got the special kiss from the god himself, it's not like he was running to protools giving them codes.

Also, good luck loading up a file from an old DAW. And obviously the SP-1200 half-unplugging a channel's patch cord is still the illest way to filter basslines in the business as far as I'm concerned. I think the main thing was SP-1200s/hardware you get limited sample time. So it's not that people weren't using DAWs, it's that if you're forced to come up with 10 second beats your stuff is going to be more creative than the guy who's using the unlimited software.

Very creative which many like,

 

[Be@t Bangerz Fan]

As I said in the other thread, I think it's 'cause of the sound engine. A lot of those machines were 12-bit machines. It has a warmth that can't be (100%) replicated. Just like a lot of old-school DJs won't fukk with digital turntables, the kind that uses CD-R's, instead of vinyl. The vinyl records are grittier than a digital CD-R record.

 

[Myrical Lyfe]

Araab is still rocking out a 2500

 

[Propaganda]

daws and software in general weren't that big in the 90's (not even remotely close to nowadays at least. both in terms of functionality and acceptance) and also what @GPBear and @Be@t Bangerz Fan said.

 

[360dagod]

Why did most Hip-Hop producers still use MPC's and SP-1200's in the 90's???

In the 80's those samplers made sense but in the 90's it was already dated i think. I guess Hip-Hop producers didn't adapt when Cubase first came out?
I mean: i hear a lot of great House music from the 90's and those where already made with software/DAW's???
So why didn't Hip-Hop producers in general jump on this technology from the start?
Can y'all name some Hip-Hop producers that made they beats on software in the 90's???

DAW's where around all through out the 90's...

Fam...

Take out the technology factor for a second...

Imagine the FUN of trying to create magic with a sampling time of 5 seconds..

Think about the brainpower and training your ear would have to have to catch a simple loop and flip/chop to the point where nikkas take 30 years to find it..

There is a certain feeling that comes from making something outta nothing..

Imagine being videotaped beating a classic game with no cheat codes..You actually sat your ass there for hours until you got the job done...

The human aspect first and foremost is why nikkas kept using sp's and mpc's...

Mannie Fresh still uses his today for drums

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

yeah, but why would you limit yourself with 5 seconds if you can do so much more with software?
I mean you can still only use 5 seconds if you want with software.

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

As I said in the other thread, I think it's 'cause of the sound engine. A lot of those machines were 12-bit machines. It has a warmth that can't be (100%) replicated. Just like a lot of old-school DJs won't fukk with digital turntables, the kind that uses CD-R's, instead of vinyl. The vinyl records are grittier than a digital CD-R record.

well, i only use vinyl cause you can't scratch very well with CD-J's in my experience.
You can still hook up the turntables to your computer and record it.

And a lot of vinyl is not on the internet.

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

The only thing i can think of is the Sound-Engine.
I do know that it sounds better coming straight from the machine but when you've recorded your finished beat into a Wave-file...
and play it on a computer you lose a lot of that warmth i think.
Cause when you play a Fruity Loops beat exported as a Wave-file and play that on the MV-8800 (For example) it sounds better to.