Why Did A Lot Of Black Gangs/Prison Gangs Adopt Swahili? | Why Did We Adopt Swahili?

[get these nets]

"Vipi sasa ndugu?"- How are you, brother?
"Sawa tu, brother."- "Just fine, brother"

Thank You.

 

[Swahili P'Bitek]

In addition to the contributions made in this thread, I would also like to further dispel the myth that Swahili is a 50-50 split between coastal Bantu languages and Arabic. Its more like 90-10. Observing the noun classes,verbs and their laws of conjugation etc. alone in Swahili as well as its structure when formulating sentences to any person who speaks another Bantu language(since majority are similar in this regard) make it evident that it is 90-95% Bantu in origin. Arabic/Portuguese has some loan words(especially on items that those traders might have introduced at the coast), that is all.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Yea I also wondered this too. My guess is because of the creator of Kwanzaa. But also Swahili is more wide-spread in Africa than any other African language.

In addition to the contributions made in this thread, I would also like to further dispel the myth that Swahili is a 50-50 split between coastal Bantu languages and Arabic. Its more like 90-10. Observing the noun classes,verbs and their laws of conjugation etc. alone in Swahili as well as its structure when formulating sentences to any person who speaks another Bantu language(since majority are similar in this regard) make it evident that it is 90-95% Bantu in origin. Arabic/Portuguese has some lone words(especially on items that those traders might have introduced at the coast), that is all.

Yea, I I read this too. Swahili is actually mainly Bantu with SOME Arabic loan words.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

my mom speaks it, she got it from my grandmother who is from east congo. ki-swahili. they would switch from lingala to swahili if they didnt want me to understand what they were saying.

 

[Jeshaman]

is it
there are 55 million Hausas and 7 million Fulanis in Nigeria and then you have half of Chad that speaks it, so I'll say all together, that around 75 million speakers in Africa.

but Swahili is spoken in Tanzania(65 million), Kenya(55 million), eastern congo. Don't forget ki-swahili is also spoken is is being taught in schools in South Africa, Rwanda, and other eastern African countries

I am pretty sure hausa is spoken in 5 or 6 West African countries

 

[Bawon Samedi]

While Hausa and Fulani have be spoken more in raw numbers, Swahili is easily more widespread and among non-Swahili ethnic groups.

Vs....

Not only that Swahili is being promoted more.

 

[Danie84]

fukk all y'all nikkas in Swahili

 

[frush11]

I think he meant most widely spoken. Not the number of speakers. It is spoken in a region that is equal to the size of the continental United States.


Hausa is much too centralized in one area to gain import abroad. It'd be like comparing manadarin-chinese to English. Yes, there are more speakers of Chinese (2bil), than of English, but the wide reach of English is incomparable to Manadrin.

Same with Fulani. Its Spoken in every ECOWAS nation. And a couple of Eastern Nations.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Yeah, Swahili is the most widely spoken African language on the continent. When you learn it you can tell it’s way more Bantu than it is Arabic. But on top of that, in a lot of the African centered schools around here in the DMV teach Swahili extensively. They’ve begun incorporating other African languages but Swahili always been the go to for tapping into Pan Africanism. Rastas took up Amharic because of their beliefs, and more people getting into Ifa/Akan are learning Yoruba and Twi.

So I think African language is going to keep expanding. Even with the Afrobeats explosion you got more people gettin exposed to pidgin English and other dialects.

 

[CopiousX]

Yeah, Swahili is the most widely spoken African language on the continent. When you learn it you can tell it’s way more Bantu than it is Arabic. But on top of that, in a lot of the African centered schools around here in the DMV teach Swahili extensively. They’ve begun incorporating other African languages but Swahili always been the go to for tapping into Pan Africanism. Rastas took up Amharic because of their beliefs, and more people getting into Ifa/Akan are learning Yoruba and Twi.

So I think African language is going to keep expanding. Even with the Afrobeats explosion you got more people gettin exposed to pidgin English and other dialects.

very cool.



I'm truly suprised the HBCUs in ATL didnt pick it up. It could be weaved into history and literature courses the way white schools thread latin into their subject matter. I remember one of my Southside (white) teachers talking about the joys of Latin roots in vocabulary, and even as a kid I was

cause she was saying this in an all black classroom.




Additionally, some of the classical math and science had to have been performed in Swahilii given all that coastal trading they were doing out there. I refuse to believe that nikkas was just sitting in East Africa waiting to be captured.




A real curriculum could be made with enough motivation.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

very cool.



I'm truly suprised the HBCUs in ATL didnt pick it up. It could be weaved into history and literature courses the way white schools thread latin into their subject matter. I remember one of my Southside (white) teachers talking about the joys of Latin roots in vocabulary, and even as a kid I was

cause she was saying this in an all black classroom.




Additionally, some of the classical math and science had to have been performed in Swahilii given all that coastal trading they were doing out there. I refuse to believe that nikkas was just sitting in East Africa waiting to be captured.




A real curriculum could be made with enough motivation.

I’ m sure they got something at one of them ATL HBCUs. I know Howard’s African Studies departments offers Swahili, Zulu, Amharic, Yoruba, and Wolof courses.

 

[Whogivesafuck]

Swahili speakers.

This is probably the best time and place to ask this question. A cult film favorite, Blood In Blood Out, is loosely based on the prison gangs in 1970s Cali, including the BGF.

This clip is cued to the scene where the leader of the BGA(changed for the film) greets another member who is being interrogated. They greet each other in Swahili. What exactly do they say?

Prisons in California would throw you in the hole for having a swahili dictionary.Geogre Jackson and James Carr books were also banned.

 

[get these nets]

Prisons in California would throw you in the hole for having a swahili dictionary.Geogre Jackson and James Carr books were also banned.

Interesting. There was a thread from last year about the books that a state prison system placed on a banned list.
Will post the link here.

 

[get these nets]

thread from last year about the books that a state prison system placed on a banned list.
Will post the link here.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/illinois-prison-bans-books-on-black-history-empowerment.741160/