Why can't we promote annual mental health check-ups as a requirement of legal gun ownership? Good now doesn’t mean good forever...

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Someone might be good in 2015 yet by the trials of life or whatever, by 2023 they're in a very shaky place in terms of mental wellness.

Yet the guns they purchased legally in 2015 are still in their possession and they've clearly gone over the deep end(think @Crayola Coyote or something).

This alone would be a huge deal in terms of addressing mass shootings.

The biggest mass shooting we ever had, was done by a guy who purchased his guns legally.
 

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Those folks obviously don't want that. For some reason, whether for profit ornsome ideological justification don't believe that there should be mental health checks for firearms purchases.


Probably the pretense of "let's not stop the good white man from protecting himself from the.black horde" premise.
 

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I believe owning guns should be treated no different than owning a motor vehicle. There are street legal cars and there are cars deemed illegal for public safety.

You a car hobbyist? Wanna take your 2 door super whip, or your souped up off road rig out for a spin? Sure. Drive that shyt out to the great outdoors or a race track and have fun with your friends. You don't need a modified McLaren just to pick up groceries through 30 mph pedestrian road.

You a gun enthusiast and collector? You wanna carrtly a pistol everywhere you go like a paranoid wannabe tough guy that cant wait to live out his action movie fantasies? Cool. You wanna shoot your AR-15 around? Cool. Go meet up in the woods or the range with your gun buddies and enjoy your private time. You wanna roll out the door with your AR-15 and walk by public places with it because "muh rights?" Yeah, fukk outta here. There is literally no reason to carry an AR-15 unless the intention is to kill en mass. It's practically no good even for hunting or most sport. And I dare the overzealous gun owners to justify why owning an AR-15 simply for hobby is personally upsetting. What about allowing assault rifles in public streets has you so eager?

We keep our public streets safe even knowing that not every licensed driver is mentally or visually stable. We can keep schools, churches, malls, concerts, political rallies, etc safe the same way. No need to ban guns outright or scrutinize gun owners. Just regulating the open carry of weapons that have no place in public except for one reason could be enought. Common sense gun control. It shouldn't be hard.
 

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So if i buy guns in 2015,and you later determine im crazy. Your just going to come take all my guns away:comeon:

He actually has a point. Mental fitness is subjective and shouldn't matter here. I don't feel any safer knowing the guy walking around town with an AR-15 rifle is legally deemed "sane." It simply shouldn't be there. Assault rifles are a threat to public safety. They shouldnt exist outside of a war zone, a film set, or a hobbyist space. That's all there is to it.
 

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I really hope y'all aren't in EST talking about this stuff at 3:00am on a Friday.
 

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So if i buy guns in 2015,and you later determine im crazy. Your just going to come take all my guns away:comeon:
Yes.

If you're mentally sound in 2015, then go through some ish in the following years and end up cracked in 2023, doing sovereign citizen rants in barbershops, yes if a wellness check-up finds you unstable your guns get confiscated and the funds spent refunded to you.

These aren't tools of transportation or items that have other utilities.

They're instruments of putting holes in things full-stop, and owning them should be a privilege and not a right.
 

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America doesn’t like accountability or responsibility

This happens all the time when a school get shot up, we talk about gun laws for about 72 hours and the kids and teachers who died and then we back to what trump said, kamala not black, nfl season game this weekend who u betting on, oh so and so rapper died, so and so celebrity is fukking so and so
 

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America doesn’t like accountability or responsibility

This happens all the time when a school get shot up, we talk about gun laws for about 72 hours and the kids and teachers who died and then we back to what trump said, kamala not black, nfl season game this weekend who u betting on, oh so and so rapper died, so and so celebrity is fukking so and so
That’s social media making those talking points and not the public as a whole.

Don‘t let The Coli fool you.
 

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Who exactly is supposed to foot the bill for these mental health check ups as it sure as hell won’t be these states or government?

I don’t think people think of these things when they throw out ideas.
:dead: Americans foot the bill for a lot of frivolous bullshyt, but we cant do basic mandatory mental periodic screenings for firearms ownership?
 

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:dead: Americans foot the bill for a lot of frivolous bullshyt, but we cant do basic mandatory mental periodic screenings for firearms ownership?
That’s going to require health insurance, which a lot of people don’t have. Am I right?

Even then, thats still not going to stop a lot of the guns out here on the streets that are out here illegally or the people that already have them.

How would that even be enforced?
 

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That’s going to require health insurance, which a lot of people don’t have. Am I right?

Even then, thats still not going to stop a lot of the guns out here on the streets that are out here illegally or the people that already have them.

How would that even be enforced?

every gun purchase comes with a mandatory police interview.

stop into your local field office police department, interview with a government psychologist

have it even be recorded so both parties can dispute a purchase with evidence.


All this is fully slotted for in the budget, The whole program would be less than one billion dollars.



The United States government has burnt that in a couple days in the middle east
 

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That’s going to require health insurance, which a lot of people don’t have. Am I right?

Even then, thats still not going to stop a lot of the guns out here on the streets that are out here illegally or the people that already have them.

How would that even be enforced?
With work breh.

Hard work.

The rich politicians might actually have to earn their wages/positions.

Letting things lie as they do, in a world where money goes way less far, and poverty is debilitating so stresses are heightened and gun ownership is a thing, is a recipe for exactly what we're experiencing as a country.
 

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Someone might be good in 2015 yet by the trials of life or whatever, by 2023 they're in a very shaky place in terms of mental wellness.

Yet the guns they purchased legally in 2015 are still in their possession and they've clearly gone over the deep end(think @Crayola Coyote or something).

This alone would be a huge deal in terms of addressing mass shootings.

The biggest mass shooting we ever had, was done by a guy who purchased his guns legally.
Tô be honest, politicians and companies don’t wanna fix these problems. They don’t wanna fix the gun issues, poor schools, crime in inner cities etc
 
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