Why Can't Black Folks Get Together Without Some Form Of Violence?

[ShaneTheRogue]

false, there's actually a thread recently made about how @PhonZhi, myself and others "blame hip hop" for the condition of the Black community.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/have-you-guys-noticed-this-new-clique-being-formed.321102/




Young Thug is an amazing artist and I enjoy the genius of his artistry, that doesn't change the fact the some of the content of his music is a "detriment". We discuss hip-hop here because this happens to be a hip-hop forum, what discussion does is provoke thought and enlighten people.






I'm not up all night on tiny chat (unfortunately), I consider many of the people who frequent the coli's Tinychat as family and friends, and I miss having awesome discussions with them.




I actually avoid coming into contact with Black people (including family) unless it's to do something constructive, the last time I was around my family was a few days ago when I was getting fitted for a tux for my cousin's wedding, otherwise I wouldn't have been around at all. I'm not interested in kicking back and saying whatever comes to mind unless it's online where the potential for real world damage is minimal.





The BBQ itself or any other event isn't necessarily dysfunctional, but the participants and the activities they partake in, might be. Getting drunk at a BBQ is non-constructive, it doesn't necessarily mean that something will pop off because people are getting drunk but it does mean the odds are increased. Black people "jokingly" do a lot of name calling and saying disparaging things to each other under the guise of "just playing" and it's extremely harmful, there's nothing positive about it and it doesn't create an atmosphere that fosters genuine bonding or "love".

I don't strongly believe that Black people "can't" do something that they're clearly capable of doing, what I do strongly believe is that Black people should avoid each other unless coming together to do something constructive, if you minimize contact, you dramatically reduce the probability of there being any conflict, in my experience, Black people don't like to resolve their problems with their words once arguments or conflict begins, and it can quickly lead to violence, something we as a group should avoid at all costs, including but not limited to staying the fukk away from each other unless you're doing something of constructive value, hanging out with friends with nothing planned is non-constructive and it many circumstances can lead to a non-constructive outcome.

So you believe Black people can't come to together without violence. Yet you haven't explained why you think that is.

I think you've been doing a little to much research () on st0rmfr0nt and other White supremacist sites and their rhetoric and beliefs have rubbed off on you.

Besides, as some one who only leaves the house for "constructive" reasons how would you know anyway? Because that's what the media tells you? Because that's what the supremacist sites you lurk say? You mentioned itraracial crime stats earlier but what those stats don't tell you is how much of those crimes are a result of harmless fun versus gang warfare.

And you keep assuming that all Black people are capable of getting angry enough over scuffed sneakers or mean mugging to murder someone.


You think a bunch of geeky Black guys can't get together and play video games without someone dying?
You believe that a group of holistic "earthy type Black females can't get together and go painting?
You think that artsy tpe Black people can't chill at a spoken word concert?


Why do you keep assuming that all Black people like the same things? (Unhealthy food, raucous parties, alcohol, drugs)

Why should Black people who don't harm anyone or even help their communities be punished for what mostly gang members do?

 

[Dzali OG]

We need a breakaway society, the same as other groups have done. We need to for our elite, progressive thinkers, and aim to be like them. And no not athletes or entertainers, but scholars, SCIENTISTS, and successful business men.

We forget or don't know that the majority of every race is on that bullshyt. Cac, Asian, Indian, etc., the majority of their peeps are poor and embarrassing. The media just so likes to give ours more attention than others. At the same time we insure we get more face time too. But for example, they love to paint the picture of how civil and well behaved Asian are, but go to an Asian country...lol...you will see the "******s" they don't talk about.

We continuously attempt to save everyone, the only race to do so. Going have to leave those not ready behind and hope they catch up. Going have to declare war on ratchedness and ignorance, not on some c00n shyt but some strong black man shyt.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Disunity and distrust of other blacks has ALWAYS been a problem amongst blacks throughout history. Its this disunity that has allowed the white man to exploit us for their own gains. Blacks have to learn to get the fukk along with one another if there is any hope of us succeeding as a people. Sadly, i see this same disunity shyt amongst blacks world wide.

I know it sounds crazy, but blacks need a charismatic leader to unify and crush opposition, ala Hitler or someone of that caliber.

 

[Matt504]

So you believe Black people can't come to together without violence. Yet you haven't explained why you think that is.

I think you've been doing a little to much research () on st0rmfr0nt and other White supremacist sites and their rhetoric and beliefs have rubbed off on you.

If I believed that Black people can't come together without violence, I'd simply state that Black people should avoid each other and shouldn't come in contact under any circumstances.

Besides, as some one who only leaves the house for "constructive" reasons how would you know anyway? Because that's what the media tells you? Because that's what the supremacist sites you lurk say? You mentioned itraracial crime stats earlier but what those stats don't tell you is how much of those crimes are a result of harmless fun versus gang warfare.

I know because I didn't always abide by this code, and I have years upon years of first hand experience. I grew up in New Orleans where we had zero gangs yet had a reputation as being the "murder capital", something many new orleanians took great pride in.

In new Orleans "block parties" are very popular, people get together to have a harmless good time and there's fukkery almost every single time, in fact, people go to them knowing that there's a high probability of there being gunfire at some point, but "fun."

And you keep assuming that all Black people are capable of getting angry enough over scuffed sneakers or mean mugging to murder someone.

That's not what I'm assuming, if I believed that, I'd recommend that Black people try to avoid each other at all costs no matter what you have planned. What i am assuming is that the odds of conflict occurring increase when Black people get together to do non-constructive things which is why I say "minimize contact, minimize conflict"

You think a bunch of geeky Black guys can't get together and play video games without someone dying?
You believe that a group of holistic "earthy type Black females can't get together and go painting?
You think that artsy tpe Black people can't chill at a spoken word concert?

Getting together to play video games is fine, but there have been many instances where I've seen Black men literally fight over Madden or NBA Live, and talk to each other in a very hostile way while playing under the guise of "just playing"

Going painting is a constructive activity, going out for drinks is not.

Chilling at a spoken word concert is fine as well as it requires zero talking and a lot of listening, Black people getting together just to "shoot the shyt" is dangerous because the conversations often lead to talking about people who aren't present.

Why do you keep assuming that all Black people like the same things? (Unhealthy food, raucous parties, alcohol, drugs)

I know all Black people don't like the same things, but I also don't know what every Black person likes, in lieu of that, I suggest Black people avoid each other unless they explicitly make plans to do something of constructive value, when two or more Black people get together, there should be no "I'm bored" or "what you tryna get into"

Why should Black people who don't harm anyone or even help their communities be punished for what mostly gang members do?

I'm not suggesting that anyone be punished, if you're a Black person who doesn't harm anyone just continue not harming anyone.

 

[Dzali OG]

Imagine if we took every Asian and combined them in China. Lumped them all together and said you're all yellow now. Made their borders for them. Have Japanese living in the same village as Chinese, etc.

It would be pure hell...and this is what the world has done to us. I'm thinking we have to overcome this and fix it. I'm not a HI but brehs...there's something to that "we're not the same" point.

And reading books......it's sad to say but, there were black people who weren't doing shyt throughout time. Who have always been slaves.

We in America are a mixture of all these black folks. With a little neanderthal thrown in. We're a lost tribe with genetics and mental abuse to overcome.

 

[jwonder]

is that you?

I hate this dude with all my power. He never talks about the educated black people. C'mon when is the last time you heard about a shoot out with black folks that are not in the hood? He thrives on the ones in the hood not doing shyt with their lives. He is no different from the Jew media.

Believe it or not. Arizona is the least racist state in the country. If he brought his crispy ass to the East Coast it would have been a different story. Sotomayor is just Stephen from Django and he needs to be slit.

 

[IVS]

Thats a damn lie. I go to events that are majority black often enough and theres no problems a good portion of the time, whether its in brooklyn, the dmv, Jersey City, Newark, Raleigh wherever. So I dont get what y'all are talking about.

I mean sometimes shyt happens when you gather larger groups of people and they've been drinking and/or alcohol is being served. Some people are violent drunks and they fux it up for everybody.

 

[IVS]

There has to be a culture change in America pronto. The American Negro is disgusting .

Dont you ever call yourself a brother or a sister making dumb ass comments like that. Disgusting how? There's a good portion of us making it happen here in America. We just have no heritage and no sense of community to accompany a cultural identity.

You sounding like a black white supremacists hebrew israelite type.

And can all you pseudo-psychologist and sociologists stop spouting this trite idea that fatherlessness is the problem. You're just regurgitating nonsense. I know tons of self respecting and upright black people from single parents homes. Hell I'm one of them.

 

[IceManJones]

Dont you ever call yourself a brother or a sister making dumb ass comments like that. Disgusting how? There's a good portion of us making it happen here in America. We just have no heritage and no sense of community to accompany a cultural identity.

You sounding like a black white supremacists hebrew israelite type.

And can all you pseudo-psychologist and sociologists stop spouting this trite idea that fatherlessness is the problem. You're just regurgitating nonsense. I know tons of self respecting and upright black people from single parents homes. Hell I'm one of them.

This is your American Negro



And you want me to respect that and this

The American Negro is utter filth everything they do horrible attempt to get other ethnicity's to like them . Black American women are the worst examples of this.

 

[IVS]

This is your American Negro



And you want me to respect that and this

The American Negro is utter filth everything they do horrible attempt to get other ethnicity's to like them . Black American women are the worst examples of this.

Thanks for that update Mr. Bigsby.

 

[Prince Akeem]

Looking at some of the responses and dapped up posts in this thread....Man.

Ain't some of ya'll supposed to be pro-black? Don't y'all complain about racism?

Be pro black and avoid contact with black people brehs.

And fukk @Matt504 c00n troll ass.

 

[IceManJones]

Thanks for that update Mr. Bigsby.

Its true .

 

[Matt504]

Looking at some of the responses and dapped up posts in this thread....Man.

Ain't some of ya'll supposed to be pro-black? Don't y'all complain about racism?

Be pro black and avoid contact with black people brehs.

And fukk @Matt504 c00n troll ass.

Yes I'm pro Black and yes I complain about racism, and I also avoid contact with Black people unless we're coming together to do something constructive, if that makes me a c00n, I'll be that.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

Rappers like Chief Keef aint helping your cause.. i grew up with conscious rap like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots.. i tried putting other black people on and all i got was "that shyt is corny"

I went to a De La Soul free concert in Central Park a couple of years back and there was more white people in the crowd loving the music, and jamming out... what does that say about the community.