Why Be A #BothSider? Can You Agree This Is All A Scam? Where Are The Democrats?

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That's an insane Musk-like perspective.
Not everyone is starting from the same starting point.

Everything you just said is exactly what current-POTUS retweeted the other day that if you are rich you can become richer with all the stock market fluctuations.

You are advocating for the short-term benefits for the well-to-do of creating economic instability.
That's like keep on fluctuating the health of a baby and make him sick every now and then so you can sell the family pills.
All that could have been prevented if people didn’t put Trump in office.

They did, so here we are and having a non-quality degree or serving no Military experience brings zero respect to these Republicans’ tables. I can tell these people to fukk off because of my academic background and some of them will respect it. Even then some of them don’t so I can imagine someone with less of a respectable background is big time screwed.

This is where you’re expected to be x10 better to get 1/10th of the credit, so if you don’t got either…not going to lie, it’ll be tough and you got an insane uphill battle. This is why people say finish school/join the military though: because nobody can take that away from you if you do. I can throw my weight around and get into a spot.

Rich get richer with Republicans, that’s their motto. If you don’t got any credentials for them to respect you on, you might as well be talking to a shoe.
 
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That's what tokenism is.
You give the illusion that you care about an under-represented group and allow it to eclipse discussions of more important issues.
You are thinking too much of Trans and gay people, i'm not talking about them, i'm talking about the strategy of using them to make a politician seem like he on the right side of morality.

But

Gay people have seen significant protections and progress

Like depending on your age, it's night and day how they can conduct themselves as someone who was in high school in the early 00's to now

Why do you think that is

Could it be, that maybe there was some changes either through legislation or trends in popular culture that dictated that?

Like consider how life could change for a breh in 1965 to 1975.
 

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But

Gay people have seen significant protections and progress

Like depending on your age, it's night and day how they can conduct themselves as someone who was in high school in the early 00's to now

Why do you think that is

Some of that could be attributed to cultural shifts not just legislation.
And don't forget one important thing, if you pro-gay or anti-gay or pro-trans or anti-trans how much does it matter to a politician?
If a politician is pro-gay and trans-rights how much money is he going to lose from lobbyists?
Follow the money man, being pro-LGBTQ is easy work, because it costs them nothing, no loss of riches.

Because if you follow the money, it never leads you to ATL, it leads you to an eventual mad max world.
It leads to corruption, it leads to widening the wealth gap, it leads to more wars and more occupation and more surveillance etc...
 

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It’s funny, bothsiders think it’ll level the playing field if someone like Trump takes over because they’ll “Destroy the system”.

All this Trump administration will do though is make people who are driven and have good degrees or military experience further separate themselves from people who didn’t do either.

Tough times separate the pack because it makes the smarter/more accomplished people more alert and sharp. Great and easy times is when everyone else stands the chance of catching up to the top talent, who see that stretch as a time to enjoy their success.

Democrats can’t help much at times like this when most of their power is vanquished. You can’t ask for aid now, you need to ask them Republicans for it. It’s honestly bootstraps time because that’s the answer you’re going to get.

Bothsiders are crabs in a barrel type people that underachieved in school and at their workplaces, wanting to drag others down with them.
 

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People who believe in notions such as Democrats and Republicans, left and right wing, or in there being a problem about who does and who does not use the term 'both sides' in any context and who conceive of politics as involving the importance of questions relating to these terms or analyzing them unfortunately are not intelligent enough to ever have any significant ideas about society and are actively contributing to the downfall of civilization by letting ignorance rule.
 

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Some of that could be attributed to cultural shifts not just legislation.
And don't forget one important thing, if you pro-gay or anti-gay or pro-trans or anti-trans how much does it matter to a politician?
If a politician is pro-gay and trans-rights how much money is he going to lose from lobbyists?
Follow the money man, being pro-LGBTQ is easy work, because it costs them nothing, no loss of riches.

Because if you follow the money, it never leads you to ATL, it leads you to an eventual mad max world.
It leads to corruption, it leads to widening the wealth gap, it leads to more wars and more occupation and more surveillance etc...

So basically your beef is with gay people. Cause you just told on yourself here.

This is verbaitm a fascist talking point btw, tread lightly breh.
 

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Right now, POTUS is causing crazy damage harm to the country and even hurting the global economy, gutting government agencies, and creating global instability. Yet, aside from Bernie Sanders and AOC, the Democratic Party is mostly and largely silent. Just two people is not enough, so we have to conclude the whole party is silent, but I guess you can add Tim Walz too.

But they were loud and united on transgender issues??? No?? Weren't they?
But now, when the country faces real insane maniacal threats, Democrats seem nowhere to be found.
They were so loud during the Trans and Gay stuff though.

Is it possible that both Republicans and Dems worked together to make the transgender issue such a large issue so they would not have to focus on important things?
Was/is the whole trans topic a scam from both parties?
How could they be so loud when it comes to that but so silent with what is going on today.

I remember what Jesse Ventura said, he used to be a professional wrestler and then went into politics.
He said politicians are like wrestlers, they all hate each other in the ring but they all friends in the locker room.
Do you think this is true?

Is this silence a strategy, fear, or just a lack of leadership?
What do you think? Why aren’t Democrats fighting harder against POTUS's destructive agenda?

And on another note, they are staying silent while Bernie and AOC are dropping record rally numbers when it's not even election time.
They got more attendees then Bernie had in his prime during the election, so imagine how can the size be larger now and not even during an election, imagine if it WAS during an election.
So with other Democrats seeing that, you'd think they'd speak up because they can clearly see the popularity of the message and they want to get re-elected, or will they only talk during election time?

Makes you wonder, why label #bothsider when Democrats are allowing this?
What's the use of voting for the party that sure aren't current-POTUS(scared to type his name) and wouldn't go this far but would allow POTUS to go this far?
If they would allow current R-POTUS to go this far then who's to say that the Dem in 2028 or 2032 wouldn't eventually do insane things but wouldn't speak off the cuff like current POTUS but still do it in the background.

On the chance that you are serious, Trump has been re-elected, has MAGA majority in the other branches of govt .
He is governing by executive order
and openly violating the checks and balances in the system, when Fed judges rule against him.

The voters were told about some of the plans he had in store and voted for him anyway.

Democrats in the Congress/Senate are using the legal means in the political system to prevent him from doing more damage.

The rallies, marches, and town halls are meant to engagevoters and help them vote out MAGA republicans in the next series of elections, before they do more damage to the country.
To me, that is the point of these rallies. Not just for the sake of throwing a march and delivering speeches, and then things going back to normal.

What would you like to see Democrats do, specifically?
 

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Who is “they”

Can you name the specific politicians you see being silent on trumps actions but were loud about lgbbq issues?

Then we can discuss specifics.

Biden, Harris have consistently condemned Trump’s anti-LGBTQ+ stance.
Gavin Newsom, Seth Moulton, Angie Craig, Sharice Davids, David Cicilline, Mark Takano, Tammy Baldwin etc...
Alot of the Squad too but they also speak about important issues and Jayapal.
MSNBC, most liberal outlets, even left wing progressive outlets like the Majority Report where that girl Emma cares more about trans issues than economic ones.
 

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Biden, Harris have consistently condemned Trump’s anti-LGBTQ+ stance.
Gavin Newsom, Seth Moulton, Angie Craig, Sharice Davids, David Cicilline, Mark Takano, Tammy Baldwin etc...
Alot of the Squad too but they also speak about important issues and Jayapal.
MSNBC, most liberal outlets, even left wing progressive outlets like the Majority Report where that girl Emma cares more about trans issues than economic ones.

Biden did focus on economic issues during his entire administration

Ya'll just focused on him being old, which he was, but that just shows your priorities are out of wack, and therefore, not serious people.
 

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So basically your beef is with gay people. Cause you just told on yourself here.

This is verbaitm a fascist talking point btw, tread lightly breh.

You are too far down the rabbit hole man.
How did I tell on myself? Cause I said ATL?
Listen man, it should always be lives over feelings, it should never be feelings over lives. And that is the most anti-fascist stance you can have.
Because fascists will always use the tool of distractions. Step yo game up
 

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The voters were told about some of the plans he had in store and voted for him anyway.
Listen, MAGA watches Sky news, Charlie Kirk, Dailywire and Fox.
So no they were not told.
They are not even being told the truth NOW as it is happening...
Check the latest Jon Stewart Thread I made where he shows right wing news praising Trump for the tarrifs and gutting the govt and all that.

What would you like to see Democrats do, specifically?

Dude where are the democrats?
What I want them to do?
I dunno, maybe not be invisible as a dictator takes over maybe.. i dunno..
 

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You are too far down the rabbit hole man.
How did I tell on myself? Cause I said ATL?
Listen man, it should always be lives over feelings, it should never be feelings over lives. And that is the most anti-fascist stance you can have.
Because fascists will always use the tool of distractions. Step yo game up

When have fascists ever supported homosexuals.

It's not about being "too far down the rabbit hole"

It's called, have some sense and being able to articulate a point outside of rhetoric and cliches
 

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Listen, MAGA watches Sky news, Charlie Kirk, Dailywire and Fox.
So no they were not told.
They are not even being told the truth NOW as it is happening...
Check the latest Jon Stewart Thread I made where he shows right wing news praising Trump for the tarrifs and gutting the govt and all that.



Dude where are the democrats?
What I want them to do?
I dunno, maybe not be invisible as a dictator takes over maybe.. i dunno..
Joke thread, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. But ths is a middle school response.
+1 to ignore list
 
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