Why are we letting white America let us lose respect for MLK?

[WhenWeWereKings]

Think one of these slick internet nikkas need to Meme this

He got his killed after he recognized the error in his message

They laid his ass down when he stopped acquiescing

Ironic that these type of quotes from MLK get zero mainstream media attention.

 

[Akata Man Bromo]

MLK was a c00n

Black people would be better off if he was never born

@kp404 hmmm

 

[Red Shield]

"I've come upon something that disturbs me deeply," he said. "We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know that we will win. But I've come to believe we're integrating into a burning house.............I'm afraid that America may be losing what moral vision she may have had," he answered. "And I'm afraid that even as we integrate, we are walking into a place that does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass is given justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger and violence that tears at the soul of this nation."

MLK last conversation to Harry Belafonte

"But I've come to believe we're integrating into a burning house"

You don't say something like that without having some serious second thoughts about what you did.

Most people don't bother to research anything... thankfully the internet makes getting most information easy.

 

[10:31]

"But I've come to believe we're integrating into a burning house"

You don't say something like that without having some serious second thoughts about what you did.

Most people don't bother to research anything... thankfully the internet makes getting most information easy.

Breh, there is even a grainy video of him saying it on YouTube. He looked beyond stressed

Hairline was at the back of his head

He was sweating

Looked like he had lost weight

It's like he had a realization of some sort and his eyes opened. But instead of letting his action just speak he came out with his perspective and caught the slugs

 

[Free White & 21]

What was MLK's message?

Yea they manipulated both but it was nearly impossible for whitey to use 'soundbite manipulation' on pre-mecca Malcolm because he was always giving whitey, and america that work. His message came thru much clearer for me because he stayed on their heads in every media outlet. They can only use propaganda against Malcolm, his words can not be debated AT ALL so they don't even try. And guess what, his words are still true today. Whitey is still the same devil he was back then, and black folks that try to be buddy buddy with whitey are still fukked up today so...

Simply put:

Martin was Integration - Equality
Malcolm was Segregation - Supremacy

I'm not equal to these devils, i'm above them in every way.
I'm not trying to integrate with them, i don't really want anything to do with them

So for me Malcolm makes the most sense

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Martin was Integration - Equality
Malcolm was Segregation - Supremacy

That wasn't Martin's message. That was the version of Martin's message that they sold to us.

And segregation wasn't X's message either, it was separation which he and the NOI always made a clear distinction between the two

 

[NYC Rebel]

Yea they manipulated both but it was nearly impossible for whitey to use 'soundbite manipulation' on pre-mecca Malcolm because he was always giving whitey, and america that work. His message came thru much clearer for me because he stayed on their heads in every media outlet. They can only use propaganda against Malcolm, his words can not be debated AT ALL so they don't even try. And guess what, his words are still true today. Whitey is still the same devil he was back then, and black folks that try to be buddy buddy with whitey are still fukked up today so...

Simply put:

Martin was Integration - Equality
Malcolm was Segregation - Supremacy

I'm not equal to these devils, i'm above them in every way.
I'm not trying to integrate with them, i don't really want anything to do with them

So for me Malcolm makes the most sense

It's "simply put" to niqqas whose never researched MLK with any real dedication. They rather dumb him down to simple terms than speak on his complexities folks like you know little about.

I celebrated the 47th anniversary of his greatest speech last month that he wrote a week before his death.

Just admit that you know little about the man beyond the Dream and keep it moving. Don't suddenly google your way into depth about him either

 

[Free White & 21]

That wasn't Martin's message. That was the version of Martin's message that they sold to us.

And segregation wasn't X's message either, it was separation which he and the NOI always made a clear distinction between the two

It's "simply put" to niqqas whose never researched MLK with any real dedication. They rather dumb him down to simple terms than speak on his complexities folks like you know little about.

I celebrated the 47th anniversary of his greatest speech last month that he wrote a week before his death.

Just admit that you know little about the man beyond the Dream and keep it moving. Don't suddenly google your way into depth about him either

Fine. Why don't you nikkas EXPLAIN what his message was then
I already stated that i needed to do more research on him.. so cut the bullshyt and help me or
I stand corrected on the separation/segregation thing @bdizzle

 

[godkiller]

I've noticed a lot of conscious folks these days have sort of distanced themselves from MLK in favor of more "militant" black leaders such as Malcolm, Assata, Angela Davis, Hampton, Garvey, etc. etc. I understand why. These days white people like to use MLK as their image of what blacks should act like: peaceful, docile, all about love and caring and kumbaya. In fact I've seen MLK's name get slandered on here more than once because apparently he was too "soft".

Let's be clear, the MLK we see in mainstream media is a sanitized caricature of what he really was. MLK was in the trenches, every day. He really lived that shyt. What's more, is that his nonviolence wasn't just on some "turn the other cheek" shyt. It was intended to put white savagery on full display. Imagine the reaction of the world when they see blacks exercise their right to protest peacefully, while they get dogs sicked on them, sprayed with hoses, shot at, spit on, lynched, and more. Everything MLK did was methodical, and calculated.

Obtaining us the right to vote and ending segregation were just two small parts of the puzzle. That's why when I see people look at his accomplishments with disdain, I can't help but to get a lil upset. That's not where MLK wanted to stop by any means. His goal was complete economic and social equality, how can you judge his accomplishments when America is the reason his life was cut short?

Anyway the point of this is to counter the nonsense I've seen a lot these days about MLK being soft, about his way being outdated, and all that. He's one of the black figures I admired most because he fully outsmarted the institution and I think he would've eventually finessed the ultimate victory for black people one day, if he got the chance.

Because the legitimacy of MLK's vision depends entirely on successful integration with white people. He said this could be done. To this point, he was wrong. The mere fact he was killed for preaching his message is proof that he was wrong too.

 

[JBoy]

That wasn't Martin's message. That was the version of Martin's message that they sold to us.

And segregation wasn't X's message either, it was separation which he and the NOI always made a clear distinction between the two

MLK preached a form of distinctive Black Socialism that also mixed the Black Church in the, the making out of him to be some moderate on racial and economic issues is is quite frankly disturbing as hell there is a reason why X and King started to concur quite a bit on the Black issue (though stated in diffrent tones of course) towards the ends of both of their lives

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Fine. Why don't you nikkas EXPLAIN what his message was then
I already stated that i needed to do more research on him.. so cut the bullshyt and help me or
I stand corrected on the separation/segregation thing @bdizzle

TLDR: MLK's message was about justice and equality for black people and used non-violence resistance to achieve it.

MLK's message was about justice and equality for black people, and he used certain tactics in order to achieve that goal. His approach was to use non-violent resistance in order to create social change. He believed that if black people were organized enough, they could change our conditions quicker than if we started rioting and tearing shyt up. The reason we think MLK's message was only about integration was because all we were ever taught about him was the I have a dream speech about him wanting to see black and white people able to sit together at the table of brotherhood. X made similar statements after returning from Mecca and establishing the OAAU, but he was still advocating separation from cacs.

Here's a MLK quote about non violent resistance:

We don't have to argue with anybody. We don't have to curse and go around acting bad with our words. We don't need any bricks and bottles. We don't need any Molotov cocktails. We just need to go around to these stores, and to these massive industries in our country, and say, "God sent us by here, to say to you that you're not treating his children right. And we've come by here to ask you to make the first item on your agenda fair treatment, where God's children are concerned. Now, if you are not prepared to do that, we do have an agenda that we must follow. And our agenda calls for withdrawing economic support from you."

That was the tactics he employed in many of his biggest victories. During the Montgomery bus boycott black people stopped riding the bus 100% (non violent resistance). For black people that depended on buses, King and other leaders during the Boycott would raise money, send supplies, and provide alternative transportation:

On Saturday, December 3, it was evident that the black community would support the boycott, and very few blacks rode the buses that day. On December 5, a mass meeting was held to determine if the protest would continue. Given twenty minutes notice, King gave a speech[23] asking for a bus boycott and attendees enthusiastically agreed. Starting December 7, Hoover's FBI noted the "agitation among negroes" and tried to find "derogatory information" about King.[24]

The boycott proved extremely effective, with enough riders lost to the city transit system to cause serious economic distress. Martin Luther King later wrote "[a] miracle had taken place." Instead of riding buses, boycotters organized a system of carpools, with car owners volunteering their vehicles or themselves driving people to various destinations. Some white housewives also drove their black domestic servants to work. When the city pressured local insurance companies to stop insuring cars used in the carpools, the boycott leaders arranged policies with Lloyd's of London, a company which once insured slave cargo ships.[25]

Black taxi drivers charged ten cents per ride, a fare equal to the cost to ride the bus, in support of the boycott. When word of this reached city officials on December 8, the order went out to fine any cab driver who charged a rider less than 45 cents. In addition to using private motor vehicles, some people used non-motorized means to get around, such as cycling, walking, or even riding mules or driving horse-drawn buggies. Some people also hitchhiked. During rush hours, sidewalks were often crowded. As the buses received few, if any, passengers, their officials asked the City Commission to allow stopping service to black communities.[26] Across the nation, black churches raised money to support the boycott and collected new and slightly used shoes to replace the tattered footwear of Montgomery's black citizens, many of whom walked everywhere rather than ride the buses and submit to Jim Crow laws.[citation needed]

That was in 1956. By the late 60's King had taken a more "militant" approach to his non violent resistance campaign. It was then he started telling black people to withdraw your money from white owned institutions and put them 100% in black owned institutions.

And so, as a result of this, we are asking you tonight, to go out and tell your neighbors not to buy Coca-Cola in Memphis. Go by and tell them not to buy Sealtest milk. Tell them not to buy -- what is the other bread? -- Wonder Bread. And what is the other bread company, Jesse? Tell them not to buy Hart's bread. As Jesse Jackson has said, up to now, only the garbage men have been feeling pain; now we must kind of redistribute the pain. We are choosing these companies because they haven't been fair in their hiring policies; and we are choosing them because they can begin the process of saying they are going to support the needs and the rights of these men who are on strike. And then they can move on town -- downtown and tell Mayor Loeb to do what is right.

But not only that, we've got to strengthen black institutions. I call upon you to take your money out of the banks downtown and deposit your money in Tri-State Bank. We want a "bank-in" movement in Memphis. Go by the savings and loan association. I'm not asking you something that we don't do ourselves at SCLC. Judge Hooks and others will tell you that we have an account here in the savings and loan association from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. We are telling you to follow what we are doing. Put your money there. You have six or seven black insurance companies here in the city of Memphis. Take out your insurance there. We want to have an "insurance-in."

Now these are some practical things that we can do. We begin the process of building a greater economic base. And at the same time, we are putting pressure where it really hurts. I ask you to follow through here.

He also started saying that his next campaign was about repartations for black people



He was assassinated shortly after that video and quote about withdrawing your money from white businesses. He also was working on the poor people's campaign where he was going to bring tens of thousands of people to Washington, DC and create a protest camp in the middle of DC. The camp was supposed to be there permanently and be a 24/7 protest in front of all of the federal buildings about the injustices going on in America for poor people. The poor people's campaign IMO, was going to be where he demanded reparations for black people. It was similar to the occupy wall street movement from a few years back.

As far as Malcolm, here's his words regarding separation vs. segregation:



Personally I think the reason so many people negatively paint MLK as some sellout c00n is because the same people that assassinated him were the same people who's now praising him for his ideas about "peace, love, and brotherhood." Never forget MLK was absolutely HATED in America. White people in the 60's fewed King as Satan incarnate (I've even heard old racist cacs refer to him as Martin Lucifer King). He wasn't loved at all, which is they firebombed his house during the bus boycott and shot him on the balcony in Memphis.

And the same twisting of King's message is what they're currently doing to Malcolm X's message. They're trying to paint X as some pro-integration activist after he came back from Mecca, but he was still very much focused on black nationalism and viewed white supremacy as the enemy.

 

[Pill Gates]

All trolling aside, MLK had good intentions but black people assimilating and intergrating into white culture has been a nightmare so far . We were better off during segregation

 

[↓R↑LYB]

MLK preached a form of distinctive Black Socialism that also mixed the Black Church in the, the making out of him to be some moderate on racial and economic issues is is quite frankly disturbing as hell there is a reason why X and King started to concur quite a bit on the Black issue (though stated in diffrent tones of course) towards the ends of both of their lives

I don't think he necessarily mixed the black church in with his movement. I think it was more church was just a big part of life in the south for black people that you really couldn't ignore it. It would kind be like trying to start a movement among the black youth today and not using social media since it's such a big part of black youth culture nowadays.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

All trolling aside, MLK had good intentions but black people assimilating and intergrating into white culture has been a nightmare so far . We were better off during segregation

I'll keep saying it until people finally get it: MLK's goal was not assimilation into white culture. It was about getting equal rights under the law for black people.

 

[JBoy]

I don't think he necessarily mixed the black church in with his movement. I think it was more church was just a big part of life in the south for black people that you really couldn't ignore it. It would kind be like trying to start a movement among the black youth today and not using social media since it's such a big part of black youth culture nowadays.

good point