Why are Partisan lines so Binary?

[Pull Up the Roots]

Thank you for your meaning contribution to the thread

I was going to reply with more than that until I read these posts and realized you're not a serious person. You can't bemoan rigid ideology while displaying it in the thread where you're trying to question it.

Stop being obtuse


Compare sadistic adult demons who murdered people in double figures to unborn children brehs.

Once you violate someone’s rights, your rights don’t matter you are no longer a human only a demon.

They aren’t born that way

You speak of critical thinking but you’re not using it…

I should have made myself perfectly clear…Violation of rights that I am referring to is killing or torturing a human being.

Not passing legislation to prevent a certain group from legally getting married or preventing the assembly of certain parades where people expose themselves indecently. Or not allowing kids to be given puberty blockers.

A lot of people were influenced by environmental factors in these recent years.
People come out of the closet and identify themselves as XYZ because it’s fashionable to do so these days to appear more cultured. Nobody in the west is being systemically oppressed because of their orientation.

You have no rational basis to suggest that these points contradict one another.
Favouring immigrants and racial groups rights over LGBT is discriminatory not contradictory. Learn the definition of what contradiction is please.

The Death penalty being the same as an abortion example was terrible. It only works if the person who is executed is completely innocent. For the record I am against it based on circumstantial evidence the proof would have to be irrefutable like reliable video and DNA.

You’re just offended I implied that I’m anti LGBT and decided to latch onto that. Instead of answering the actual question…

Race/ ethnicity is something you were born with not sexual orientation, you can argue that people develop their feelings for the same sex around puberty but sexual orientation is environmental. And if Gender Dysphoria is something that someone will commit suicide over then doesn’t that make them mentally ill? Or are you not willing to accept the flaw in that argument since WHO removed it from classification as a mental disorder whereas body dysmorphia is…

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

So you think they chose to be that way in a world that rejects them for it? Did you choose to be straight?

Smileys can't hide your brain malfunctioning breh

Oh so it's just certain rights that can be violated, just like how you're pro certain lives, and pro certain immigrants. That makes sense to you? You think people can build logical political platforms when they're littered with holes and contradictions like this?

You can't give a rational reason to justify this

And you think only LGBT people do this? And even then it's only a small group of them. Lmao

I can't judge a situation I've never been in but we do know dysphoria is a serious condition that can lead to suicide and if you think this isn't part of a long process and ongoing dialogue between the child, their parents, and multiple medical professionals I don't know what to say.

And speaking of puberty blockers, banning kids from getting them would also hurt kids that experience an early puberty

That was the original purpose. To pause things until the child was at the right age

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Is that because you are a free-thinker, or because you have clear conflicts in your policy positions that have been resolved more-or-less by large party systems?

For example, being anti-LGBT but pro-immigration/pro-reparations is a clear sign that you care about minorities but not all minorities (which is ironic because there are plenty of black/immigrant LGBT people). Should we discriminate against different religions too? What about different disabilities? You would have to elaborate on your reasoning behind your decisions for it to come across as structured and logical imo because it appears to be no consistent thread behind your policy. OTOH, Republicans more or less hate all minorities and democrats more or less accept all minorities.

People have their own individual prejudices to certain things that they do or don’t believe in that I don’t necessarily think are contradictory. I’d like to think people are wise enough to come to their own reasonable conclusions based on their own values, rather than being forced into media brainwashing or groupthink.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

I was going to reply with more than that until I read these posts and realized you're not a serious person. You can't bemoan rigid ideology while displaying it in the thread where you're trying to question it.

My ideologies are of my own accord I wasn’t influenced by media or politicians who just stick to certain strict policies.

If I was rigid it would be one way not the other way. Instead I picked the policies that I believe in instead of pretending to be for something I don’t care about just to appease everyone on one particular side.

You might not agree with my particular stance on that matter but that shouldn’t stop you from answering the question unless it’s really that personal to you…

 

[GPBear]

"Pro Life...
Pro Death Penalty"



seems like you aren't really about life, you just don't like women having control of their bodies

 

[MegaManX]

Liberals and conservatives always seem to have the same opinions on everything there is never any in between.

like I can’t seem to find people
who are:

Anti LGBT
Anti Abortion
Pro Affirmative Action & Reparations for ADOS
Pro Immigration
Pro Death Penalty
Pro Vaccine Pro Mask
Fearful of Climate Change
Anti cancel culture
Anti feminist
Defund the Police
Anti War
Pro Trade Union
Free Healthcare
Free transportation
Low / forgive student loans
Higher taxes for the rich
decriminalise drugs and reduce sentencing


Maybe some independents but even then they sway to the left, right or centrist there is never an amalgamation of policies.

can't tell if serious here. Most black people in america are conservative, but they would NEVER be a republican. We tend to like liberal fiscal policies but most liberal social issues tend to be taboo for us. Southern black people are extremely conservative, but something about white supremacists makes them unaminously go democrat.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

can't tell if serious here. Most black people in america are conservative, but they would NEVER be a republican. We tend to like liberal fiscal policies but most liberal social issues tend to be taboo for us. Southern black people are extremely conservative, but something about white supremacists makes them unaminously go democrat.

Great explanation when I said I couldn’t find anybody I didn’t really mean people I’m friends with or on the coli.
I really meant media and politicians.

but when it comes to media columnists and the most vocal social media commentators with hundreds of thousands of followers.

They pick a side and publicly agree with all the points just to appease their audience even if they don’t agree with them privately because they don’t want to lose ratings views or followers.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

"Pro Life...
Pro Death Penalty"



seems like you aren't really about life, you just don't like women having control of their bodies

Anti Abortion - unborn babies
pro death penalty - killing serial killers

why is it so hard for some to make that distinction

For the record I’m only super against it when a woman sleeps around without using contraception and goes to the Abortion clinic every several months. Not a rape victim, a woman who’s mortality is at risk by having the baby or a woman who’s child has an extreme life altering defect.

If she just doesn’t want to accept responsibility because she wants a career she could just give up the child for adoption.

 

[GPBear]

Anti Abortion - unborn babies
pro death penalty - killing serial killers

why is it so hard for some to make that distinction

For the record I’m only super against it when a woman sleeps around without using contraception and goes to the Abortion clinic every several months. Not a rape victim, a woman who’s mortality is at risk by having the baby or a woman who’s child has an extreme life altering defect.

If she just doesn’t want to accept responsibility because she wants a career she could just give up the child for adoption.

Do you know how many people have been taken off death row throughout history after evidence overturned their prior convictions?

The idea that you're for defunding the police due to systematic racism, but yet trust the same justice system to administer the death sentence through the courts is misguided.

And nobody is "pro-abortion" nobody wants there to be more abortions, the point is that if you make it illegal, you're only making it more dangerous for the women who are going to get abortions regardless of the laws. Plus, the concept that you'd want a woman who was going to have an abortion to raise that child is flawed.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Do you know how many people have been taken off death row throughout history after evidence overturned their prior convictions?

The idea that you're for defunding the police due to systematic racism, but yet trust the same justice system to administer the death sentence through the courts is misguided.

And nobody is "pro-abortion" nobody wants there to be more abortions, the point is that if you make it illegal, you're only making it more dangerous for the women who are going to get abortions regardless of the laws. Plus, the concept that you'd want a woman who was going to have an abortion to raise that child is flawed.

I understand that argument, that is why I wouldn’t execute someone without absolutely irrefutable proof, like DNA and supporting evidence like video from multiple angles like the murder of George Floyd. I wouldn’t execute someone based on circumstantial evidence and hearsay.
The opposite also happens just now the killer of RFK was paroled. We’ve seen many a time so called reformed criminals being reintroduced to society where they return to rape and murder, so a permanent solution is sometimes the best option. If the evidence isn’t irrefutable then I’d recommend a full life sentence. No 30 thirty / 50 year sentences based on counts… if any new evidence that proves their innocent comes to life they go home.

You can be pro death penalty and still want court reforms for the lack of precedence between very similar criminal cases and prejudicial trials and sentencing where the same crimes is committed by two people the white one gets a slap on the wrist and the black one gets the book. There’s always nuances to someone’s view of crime reform.

Who says she has to raise the child herself she should just give birth and then give the child she doesn’t want up for adoption if she refuses responsibility. The only point that you haven’t mentioned that I could agree with in favour of abortion is that some crazy women will find a way of terminating the pregnancy in an unsafe manner. A lot of these women who are getting the abortions though are relatively sane career motivated women who find having a child an inconvenience and financial burden and don’t want to accept responsibility for a one night stand where she allows a dude to go raw and shoot up the club. The ability to abort unborn foetuses is abused because women are allowed to abort them freely under any trivial circumstances not extreme mitigating circumstances.

I’ve said my peace…