Why are old school rappers selling out tours while new school struggle?

[FTBS]

Younger people are used to getting shyt for free when they want. Old heads are used to having to invest time and money in their favorite artists.

And as others have stated old heads got money and older acts are gonna put on a show.

 

[O.Red]

Imagine what a stadium full of young nikkas mumblin through an NBA Youngboy set would even sound like...you might legit think it's a gathering of retarded people for scientific study.

YoungBoy is actually a really good performer

 

[O.Red]

The majority that are popular are rapping in a way that is going to scare the fans away on top of the fact their music is ass

This. It's a smaller version of the festival meta

"Why would I pay $150 to see Lil Baby when I can spend $300 and see the hottest nikkas in the game at Rolling Loud?"

Nas and Wu Tang being on tour is a perfect example

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Before I could begin to answer this question I’d have to know how true it even is….i went to the actual article and it gives neither any specific acts nor any figures whatsoever ….like, who is this even based on? What’s the cutoff for old school and new school ? What are the gate receipts? Is this just some shyt someone pulled out their ass?

I strongly suspect the only “old school” rappers they are even considering are 50 Cent and Nas/Wu’s recent tours…and they’re using the success of those two tours matched up against the headlines from Lil Baby or MoneyBagg having to cancel a couple of shows….but what is the actual data?

Drake just finished up the highest grossing rap tour of all time a couple days…before he broke the record, it belonged to Kendrick from his last tour…are they old school rappers for the purposes of this narrative? 50 and Nas/Wu tours were successful, but how typical are they of “old school” tours? What kinda tour money is (just picked a random late 90s/early Aughts platinum rapper) Trick Daddy bringing compared to MoneyBagg now ? What are the average ticket prices?

This has poorly thought out, fallacious narrative written all over it

 

[_genocidecutter_]

We know why.

Younger rappers don’t even have real fans. These dudes have people listening to them who don’t even know who they are, but know their song. Older rappers have loyal fanbases. Who are willing to actually pay to see them. You can't even get younger listeners to pay for a damn Spotify subscription. They're definitely not putting up bread for show tickets. They ain't got it.

Facts

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

Yeah you don't seem to have an idea of what's going on right now.

Pull up a chair and have a seat

that’s actually yourself categorizing a group of people who don’t even fit the criteria of the thread, but go on.

 

[Mowgli]

that’s actually yourself categorizing a group of people who don’t even fit the criteria of the thread, but go on.

Yea ok Tommy. Relax Timothy.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

 

[Standing on business]

Most old school artist perform in smaller venues. They also tour together.

I’d like to see these stats of old school artist selling more tickets than new school an artist. From tickets prices to venue to who all is on the ticket.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

It's all about the show and performance.

Why pay $150 to watch you lip sing when i can just play the song at home for free??
Give me a show, entertain me. Older acts learned that. Give me newr versions of the song because of how you feeling or the town you in .. etc..

 

[Alvin]

Everyone mentioned in that article are superstars, they’ll always garner a crowd.
The other 98% are performing at hookah lounges and dive bars
Or they do the mega package all-in-one old school tours that’s been going on for years
With KRS, Rakim, Kane, Slick Rick, EPMD, Salt n Peppa, etc

people overlook this, more rappers on a tour means more diverse crowd.

 

[Alvin]

travis scott sold out his tour and had to open up more dates
Lil Baby, Bagg and Durk sold out or were on track to sell out theirs as well, only thing was they were doing multiple shows in the same geographic area, which is why SOME dates had to be cancelled.

 

[Krazy]

New rappers are trying to run before they can walk.

 

[Knucklehead]

Before I could begin to answer this question I’d have to know how true it even is….i went to the actual article and it gives neither any specific acts nor any figures whatsoever ….like, who is this even based on? What’s the cutoff for old school and new school ? What are the gate receipts? Is this just some shyt someone pulled out their ass?

I strongly suspect the only “old school” rappers they are even considering are 50 Cent and Nas/Wu’s recent tours…and they’re using the success of those two tours matched up against the headlines from Lil Baby or MoneyBagg having to cancel a couple of shows….but what is the actual data?

Drake just finished up the highest grossing rap tour of all time a couple days…before he broke the record, it belonged to Kendrick from his last tour…are they old school rappers for the purposes of this narrative? 50 and Nas/Wu tours were successful, but how typical are they of “old school” tours? What kinda tour money is (just picked a random late 90s/early Aughts platinum rapper) Trick Daddy bringing compared to MoneyBagg now ? What are the average ticket prices?

This has poorly thought out, fallacious narrative written all over it

Exactly
Scroll through Lil Baby’s songkick and see how many arena shows he’s headlined or co-headlined.
Rod Wave and Doja Cat tours vastly outsold Nas/Wu-Tang.
Just the tip of the iceberg of examples.

 

[The Eliminator]

Older rappers perform with multiple other people and/or in smaller venues.
Lil Baby and Moneybagg trying to tour in arenas,seeing that the demand is not quite there then cancelling some shows does not mean all new rappers are struggling.