Why are HIV/AIDS conspiracy theories still popular

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I guess people who are born without immune systems (SCID) are born with AIDS according to you

If you are born with something its not acquired..

a doctor won't tell you that you have AIDS because it's not AIDS :laff:
the definition of AIDS is not limited to the words in the acronym


:ohhh: dont use the words in the acronym to define the condition.

While you're schooling me...can you tell me what other acronyms work like that?

all I said is there are other ways for a person to have an Acuired Immune Deficiency

:yeshrug: I know how the CDC defines AIDS. outside of the HIV infection the rest of the symptoms are the same.
 

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Care to make a FEASIBLE scenario that a disease that was supposedly contracted by tribal africans eating monkey meat spread to AMERICA on both the east and west coasts and in the homosexual and black communities at the SAME time?

So what happened, some homosexual went and slept with an african tribes member, came back, populated the white homosexual community with this disease and snuck in the ghetto and slept with some black women too? Please show me a REALISTIC transmission pattern for AIDS.




BUT the government would NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT!

^^^This post is on the right track.

The rumor is that what is now known to be HIV/AIDS was first injected in African colonies claiming it was a smallpox vaccine. It was supposedly conducted by the WHO (World Health Organization), none of these have been substantiated, but they are popular rumors as to how it was spread.

Similar tests were performed on gay males in small communities on the west coast. There is a reason that undesirable minorities (gays, blacks etc.) were the first people to catch these diseases.

I grew up in a small town not too far from Ft. Detrick, Maryland. Ft. Detrick is where USAMRIID is located. In a nutshell, USAMRIID basically does a lot of disease/chemical testing.(CLICK HERE FOR WIKI)

You can call :ducktales: or whatever, but I am only telling OP this because I find these topics fascinating, but my father used to be a teacher in Carol County Maryland and he knew the son of one of Ft. Detrick's colonoels/head scientists, something along those lines. My dad passed away, but if I remember what he told me correctly, the name of his co-worker at the school was Roger.

My dad had the SAME exact conversation you're having now with his coworkers and they ALWAYS clowned him for being a conspiracy theorist/whacko, but this dude Roger overheard him. Roger told him, "You know you're on the right track, right?" He ended up inviting my dad to check out the base and see some of the restricted buildings from the outside.

My dad told me about a research facility that was completely barricaded and bricked out and inside there was a virus outbreak that ended up being quarantined. He also told me that Roger took him to two buildings. My dad couldn't go inside of them, but Roger wanted to make a point to him by showing him the title of the buildings.

There were signs adorned on both buildings respectively "AID/HIV Research" and another said "Cancer Research". Roger never said exactly what was done in those building, but he wanted to acknowledge my dad was on the right track with the theories of the govt. testing and developing these diseases as weapons or population control.

You can believe whatever you want, but I'm imploring you to understand the govt. and some of its entities are very, very sinister. It's a common theory that most of these destructive viruses and diseases were developed and tested at Ft. Detrick where the USAMRIID is located.

The CIA has admittedly trafficked things like crack cocaine and other illegal substances to destroy and control minority populations, but why are you so quick to doubt the govt. or a similarly controlled agency wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing with diseases.

Again, believe whatever you want, and you can say whatever you want about my post, but I am not typing all of this to entertain or get e-props, I just truly think it is everyone's responsibility to understand and be aware of the frightening truths that sometimes exist in life.

Just keep an open mind OP.
 

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If you are born with something its not acquired..




:ohhh: dont use the words in the acronym to define the condition.

While you're schooling me...can you tell me what other acronyms work like that?

Chemotherapy causes immunodeficiency :ohhh:
Chemotherapy causes AIDS :troll:

Malnutrition causes immunodeficiency :ohhh:
Malnutrition causes AIDS :troll:

NBA stands for National Basketball Association
any basketball-related group that stretches beyond one state is a national basketball association :skip:
(and MTV - Music Television... ok then VH1 and BET are MTV as well :skip:)

but the NBA is the league that David Stern is the head of
and AIDS is the specific severe acquired immune deficiency syndrome caused by HIV

you're arguing over semantics
no scientist, credible or not, says that there are other causes of AIDS besides HIV
and no one considers immunodeficiency in general as AIDS like you're doing

since you're gonna say my examples aren't good let's look at HIV - human immunodeficiency virus
ok... how many other viruses can weaken your immune system? :skip: it's not just the one human immunodeficiency virus called HIV
all viruses that weaken your immune system must be HIV tho (according to your rules) :troll:

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Care to make a FEASIBLE scenario that a disease that was supposedly contracted by tribal africans eating monkey meat spread to AMERICA on both the east and west coasts and in the homosexual and black communities at the SAME time?

So what happened, some homosexual went and slept with an african tribes member, came back, populated the white homosexual community with this disease and snuck in the ghetto and slept with some black women too? Please show me a REALISTIC transmission pattern for AIDS.




BUT the government would NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT!

You're equating AIDS being discovered at different places at the same time to AIDS appearing in different places at the same time

You can bet that AIDS was underdiagnosed before we knew it existed :heh:
 

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See now you edited your post to include more hedging :comeon:

Ok whatever I guess we both made our points :comeon:
 
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I don't deny that the goverment has done some sinister things, but what I do know is that eventually every secret comes out. I don't know if the goverment had a hand in making/spreading the disease, and there isn't much evidence to support this theory, but if they did the truth will come out one day.

I don't believe in humans ability to keep secrets especially spanning across the entire globe, eventually someone would let the truth leak.
 

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How many people even know about this?

Army Has Sprayed Citizens with Radioactive Particles
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Revealed: Army scientists secretly sprayed St Louis with 'radioactive' particles for YEARS to test chemical warfare technology | Mail Online

Revealed: Army scientists secretly sprayed St Louis with 'radioactive' particles for YEARS to test chemical warfare technology
By EMILY ANNE EPSTEIN
PUBLISHED: 09:16 EST, 29 September 2012 | UPDATED: 11:21 EST, 29 September 2012
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The United States Military conducted top secret experiments on the citizens of St. Louis, Missouri, for years, exposing them to radioactive compounds, a researcher has claimed.
While it was known that the government sprayed 'harmless' zinc cadmium silfide particles over the general population in St Louis, Professor Lisa Martino-Taylor, a sociologist at St. Louis Community College, claims that a radioactive additive was also mixed with the compound.
She has accrued detailed descriptions as well as photographs of the spraying which exposed the unwitting public, predominantly in low-income and minority communities, to radioactive particles.
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Test: Sociologist Lisa Martino-Taylor, right, a sociologist at St. Louis Community College, has spent years tracking down declassified documents to uncover the lengths which the US experimented on people without their knowing. At left, cadmium sulfide, the 'harmless' chemical sprayed on the public is pictured

Spray: She has accrued detailed descriptions as well as photographs of the spraying, which took place as part of Manhattan-Rochester Coalition, which was an operation that dispersed zinc cadmium silfide particles over the general population, a compound that was presented as completely safe
'The study was secretive for reason. They didn't have volunteers stepping up and saying yeah, I'll breathe zinc cadmium sulfide with radioactive particles,' said Professor Martino-Taylor to KSDK.
Through her research, she found photographs of how the particles were distributed from 1953-1954 and 1963-1965.
In Corpus Christi, the chemical was dropped from airplanes over large swathes of city. In St Louis, the Army put chemical sprayers on buildings, like schools and public housing projects, and mounted them in station wagons for mobile use.

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Despite the extent of the experiment, local politicians were not notified about the content of the testing. The people of St Louis were told that the Army was testing smoke screens to protect cities from a Russian attack.
'It was pretty shocking. The level of duplicity and secrecy. Clearly they went to great lengths to deceive people,' Professor Martino-Taylor said.

Controversial: But Professor Martino-Taylor says that it wasn't just the 'harmless' compound, radioactive particles were also sprayed on the unwitting public. A woman refills the spray canisters in this archive picture

Scope: In St Louis, the Army put chemical sprayers on buildings, like schools and public housing projects, and mounted them in station wagons for mobile use
She accrued hundreds of pages of declassified information, which she has made available online.
In her research, she found that the greatest concentration of spraying in St Louis was at the Pruitt-Igoe public housing complex, which was home to 10,000 low income residents. She said that 70 per cent of those residents were children under the age of 12.
Professor Martino-Taylor became interested in the topic after hearing independent reports of cancers among city residents living in those areas at the time.
'This was a violation of all medical ethics, all international codes, and the military's own policy at that time,' said Professor Martino-Taylor.

How To: Despite the extent of the experiment, local politicians were not notified about the content of the testing. In this picture, a man demonstrates how to spray the canisters

School: The people of St Louis were told that the Army was testing smoke screens to protect cities from a Russian attack. A canister is positioned on top of a school in this photo
'There is a lot of evidence that shows people in St. Louis and the city, in particular minority communities, were subjected to military testing that was connected to a larger radiological weapons testing project.'
Previous investigations of the compound were rebuffed by the military, which insisted it was safe.
However, Professor Martino-Taylor believes the documents she's uncovered, prove the zinc cadmium silfide was also mixed with radioactive particles.
She has linked the St Louis testing to a now-defunct company called US Radium. The controversial company came under fire, and numerous lawsuits, after several of its workers were exposed to dangerous levels of radioactive materials in its fluorescent paint.


Contaminated: The Army has admitted that it added a fluorescent substance to the 'harmless' compound, but whether or not the additive was radioactive remains classified

Exposed: In her research, she found that the greatest concentration of spraying in St Louis was at the Pruit-Igoe public housing complex, which was home to 10,000 low income residents. She said that 70 per cent of those residents were children under the age of 12
'US Radium had this reputation where they had been found legally liable for producing a radioactive powdered paint that killed many young women who painted fluorescent watch tiles,' said Professor Martino-Taylor.
In her findings, one of the compounds that was sprayed upon the public was called 'FP2266', according to the army's documents, and was manufactured by US Radium. The compound, also known as Radium 226, was the same one that killed and sickened many of the US Radium workers.
The Army has admitted that it added a fluorescent substance to the 'harmless' compound, but whether or not the additive was radioactive remains classified.
Professor Martino-Taylor has not been able to find if the Army ever followed up on the long term health of the residents exposed to the compound. In 1972, the government destroyed the Pruitt-Igoe houses.
Upon learning of the professor's findings, Missouri lawmakers called on the Army to detail the tests.
'I share and understand the renewed anxiety of members of the St. Louis communities that were exposed to the spraying of (the chemicals) as part of Army tests during the Cold War,' Senator Claire McCaskill wrote to Army Secretary John McHugh.
'The impacted communities were not informed of the tests at the time and are reasonably anxious about the long term health impacts the tests may have had on those exposed to the airborne chemicals.'
Senator Roy Blunt called the findings 'absolutely shocking.'
'The idea that thousands of Missourians were unwillingly exposed to harmful materials in order to determine their health effects is absolutely shocking. It should come as no surprise that these individuals and their families are demanding answers of government officials,' Senator Blunt said.


Read more: Revealed: Army scientists secretly sprayed St Louis with 'radioactive' particles for YEARS to test chemical warfare technology | Mail Online
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See now you edited your post to include more hedging :comeon:

Ok whatever I guess we both made our points :comeon:

I guess I made my edit while you were googlin and typing that long response because my auto refresh didnt show anything :lolbron:

I knew how the CDC defined AIDS before i even responded to your first post :troll:
 
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^^^This post is on the right track.

The rumor is that what is now known to be HIV/AIDS was first injected in African colonies claiming it was a smallpox vaccine. It was supposedly conducted by the WHO (World Health Organization), none of these have been substantiated, but they are popular rumors as to how it was spread.

Similar tests were performed on gay males in small communities on the west coast. There is a reason that undesirable minorities (gays, blacks etc.) were the first people to catch these diseases.

I grew up in a small town not too far from Ft. Detrick, Maryland. Ft. Detrick is where USAMRIID is located. In a nutshell, USAMRIID basically does a lot of disease/chemical testing.(CLICK HERE FOR WIKI)

You can call :ducktales: or whatever, but I am only telling OP this because I find these topics fascinating, but my father used to be a teacher in Carol County Maryland and he knew the son of one of Ft. Detrick's colonoels/head scientists, something along those lines. My dad passed away, but if I remember what he told me correctly, the name of his co-worker at the school was Roger.

My dad had the SAME exact conversation you're having now with his coworkers and they ALWAYS clowned him for being a conspiracy theorist/whacko, but this dude Roger overheard him. Roger told him, "You know you're on the right track, right?" He ended up inviting my dad to check out the base and see some of the restricted buildings from the outside.

My dad told me about a research facility that was completely barricaded and bricked out and inside there was a virus outbreak that ended up being quarantined. He also told me that Roger took him to two buildings. My dad couldn't go inside of them, but Roger wanted to make a point to him by showing him the title of the buildings.

There were signs adorned on both buildings respectively "AID/HIV Research" and another said "Cancer Research". Roger never said exactly what was done in those building, but he wanted to acknowledge my dad was on the right track with the theories of the govt. testing and developing these diseases as weapons or population control.

You can believe whatever you want, but I'm imploring you to understand the govt. and some of its entities are very, very sinister. It's a common theory that most of these destructive viruses and diseases were developed and tested at Ft. Detrick where the USAMRIID is located.

The CIA has admittedly trafficked things like crack cocaine and other illegal substances to destroy and control minority populations, but why are you so quick to doubt the govt. or a similarly controlled agency wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing with diseases.

Again, believe whatever you want, and you can say whatever you want about my post, but I am not typing all of this to entertain or get e-props, I just truly think it is everyone's responsibility to understand and be aware of the frightening truths that sometimes exist in life.

Just keep an open mind OP.

i lived in CC for 2 years:ooh::ooh::ooh::ooh:
 
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