Who struggles with getting women?

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I would like for someone to answer theae questions...

If a man is struggling getting women, then is it his fault? If it is, then why is it a fault or deficiency on his part? How come it is all on the man and not the woman choosing poorly?

Because men approach women. If you are getting constantly rejected by women that are on your level, what does that say about you? Women already know what type of men that they will give the number to. And I do not believe in that 20/80 percent rule bullshyt.

Rejection is a part of the process, but consistent rejections could mean that you are aiming too high, or you need to work on yourself. Social skills, grooming and hygiene, dress code,
 

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Because men approach women. If you are getting constantly rejected by women that are on your level, what does that say about you? Women already know what type of men that they will give the number to. And I do not believe in that 20/80 percent rule bullshyt.

Rejection is a part of the process, but consistent rejections could mean that you are aiming too high, or you need to work on yourself. Social skills, grooming and hygiene, dress code,
Interesting perspective. Yes, traditionally men do approach women and with that comes rejection.

But, even if a man does get consistently rejected, I don't believe that it is because said man has some sort of deficiency or flaw. How can a woman make such an assessment upon someone she doesn't even know?

Also, to suggest that it is on the man is also suggesting that the woman is an excellent judge of character and can do so w/o knowing what type of character a man possess.

From my experience, women make poor choices in men just like men make poor choices in women. Women do miss out on good men just like the inverse. I think the mentality you speak on give women way too much credit. Credit should only be given when deserved!

At the end of the day, all a person can do is be himself. With that, a man isn't going to win em all. But, that doesn't mean he can't and won't find someone that fit his mold.

Thanks for answering my questions...
 

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I would like for someone to answer theae questions...

If a man is struggling getting women, then is it his fault? If it is, then why is it a fault or deficiency on his part? How come it is all on the man and not the woman choosing poorly?
Because there are women choosing good men and women choosing bad men...

If you not getting chose at all you are SUPER fukking up
 

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Because men approach women. If you are getting constantly rejected by women that are on your level, what does that say about you? Women already know what type of men that they will give the number to. And I do not believe in that 20/80 percent rule bullshyt.

Rejection is a part of the process, but consistent rejections could mean that you are aiming too high, or you need to work on yourself. Social skills, grooming and hygiene, dress code,
It's mainly the bolded. A conventionally attractive man could get rejected by every woman he talks to if he comes off as a creep IRL.

All of that "league" shyt is a lie. There are no leagues, only the illusion of them created by barriers to proximity. For example, it's gonna be harder for the average breh in the hood to date a surgeon or a judge just because he's less likely to encounter these women in a context where he could spit game. The logistics are off; they don't live in the same neighborhoods, go to the same stores, clubs, etc. Logistical barriers give the illusion of "leagues" when in reality it all comes down to two people being close enough to flirt with each other.

Similarly, a conventionally ugly disabled dude with great social skills could fukk a new model every week if that's all he's around all day (ex: promoter, talent agent, model scout, etc.)
 

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Interesting perspective. Yes, traditionally men do approach women and with that comes rejection.

But, even if a man does get consistently rejected, I don't believe that it is because said man has some sort of deficiency or flaw. How can a woman make such an assessment upon someone she doesn't even know?
Everybody can do that based on your initial presentation. Posture, demeanor, voice. These tell a lot about a person. Just ask a random friend what they thought about you when they first met you.
Also, to suggest that it is on the man is also suggesting that the woman is an excellent judge of character and can do so w/o knowing what type of character a man possess.

From my experience, women make poor choices in men just like men make poor choices in women. Women do miss out on good men just like the inverse. I think the mentality you speak on give women way too much credit. Credit should only be given when deserved!
There’s no such thing. Theres
Compatible and incompatible. How people work together and gel trumps the idealistic view of “good”.
At the end of the day, all a person can do is be himself. With that, a man isn't going to win em all. But, that doesn't mean he can't and won't find someone that fit his mold.

Thanks for answering my questions...
 

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Because there are women choosing good men and women choosing bad men...

If you not getting chose at all you are SUPER fukking up
Yes women either choose well or poor. But, a man's worth or worthiness is always based on whether he gets chosen or not.

Where I disagree is that the average woman is choosing correctly. Like men, they make mistakes, but said mistake isn't charged to their worthiness like men.

I believe that a man isn't deficit just because some woman isn't feeling him.

Some men simply may be in a funk and is approaching the wrong women. A woman rejecting him may actually be a blessing for him because he doesn't know what type of person that woman is nor how she would treat him.

I guess people see things differently..*shrugs*
 
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Everybody can do that based on your initial presentation. Posture, demeanor, voice. These tell a lot about a person. Just ask a random friend what they thought about you when they first met you.

There’s no such thing. Theres
Compatible and incompatible. How people work together and gel trumps the idealistic view of “good”.
This is where we will agree to disagree. No person can acurrately assess someone's character based on limited interaction.

Also, most people hold court off of initial attraction which as nothing to do with one's character. I'd wager that many people don't even think about the nuances of a person, especially at the beginning stages.

Bottom line, the average woman isn't sophisticated enough to convince me that they are good judges of character let alone is seasoned enough to know how to deal with men.

We shall agree to disagree.
 
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Yes women either choose well or poor. But, a man's worth or worthiness is always based on whether he gets chosen or not.

Where I disagree is that the average woman is choosing correctly. Like men, they make mistakes, but said mistake isn't charged to their worthiness like men.

I believe that a man isn't deficit just because some woman isn't feeling him.

Some men simply may be in a funk and is approaching the wrong women. A woman rejecting him may actually be a blessing for him because he doesn't know what type of person that woman is nor how she would treat him.

I guess people see things differently..*shrugs*
I'm really confused...

Rejection is a normal process of dating. So why are you trying to drop a bunch of analysis over normal rejection?
 

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Grown men should not be worrying about such trivial things about how many woman he can get to sleep with or fukk, focus on advancing your career and stacking that bread and the rest will follow. never revolve your whole agenda and time in trying to get a woman
I feel like this is where a lot of men fail in their early-mid 20’s. They don’t see the big picture. They spend so much time and energy focusing on how to get ass. And when they finally realize there’s more to life, they already have multiple kids with multiple women.
 

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I'm really confused...

Rejection is a normal process of dating. So why are you trying to drop a bunch of analysis over normal rejection?
Where is the confusion?

My point is that if rejection is normal, then no fault should be assigned to the person being rejected. If the man is at fault for being rejected, then the woman is equally at fault for rejecting said man.
 

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Where is the confusion?

My point is that if rejection is normal, then no fault should be assigned to the person being rejected. If the man is at fault for being rejected, then the woman is equally at fault for rejecting said man.


It's nobody's "fault" when it comes to rejection to a certain point.

Are you talking about normal instances of rejection for a man with a healthy sex/dating life.. or constant and consistent rejection of a man who can't maintain a healthy sex/dating life?

There's a huge difference in the dynamics of the two
 

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I used to struggle as a teen.

I was a geeky Mama’s boy who was overly nice to compensate for having super low self esteem. I was also fat most of my childhood and then I started doing sports. I got muscular/lean and starting dressing better. The new physique gave me something to be confident in. The new confidence helped me develop a cool personality and presence around all people, not just women.

I’ll never forget chicks from various social groups, races, age groups (18-30) and walks of life tripping over their feet to talk to me. It was a huge confidence boost. I was 19-20 years old and getting serious female attention for the first time ever.

Guys seriously overcomplicate things. You don’t need money or clout to get you female attention. Broke “nobodies” get play all the time. Figure out your big flaws and fix them. Lose weight. Work out. Clear up your skin. Embrace the best version of yourself. Find your style and run with it. Y’all remember that recent incel pickup line thread? A lot of men are losers or weirdos tbh. Women are desperate to meet non-losers. Women will throw the p*ssy at a well put together and attractive man. Be that guy. It’s simple. Respectfully, if you ain’t eating in this era: there’s probably something you are doing incorrectly.

Start improving yourself. Not for women but for you. Women will come along when they see you have confidence, a drive and a sense of great energy derived from purpose. Don’t overthink. Just be the best you and women will come.
 

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I feel like this is where a lot of men fail in their early-mid 20’s. They don’t see the big picture. They spend so much time and energy focusing on how to get ass. And when they finally realize there’s more to life, they already have multiple kids with multiple women.
Most men have horrible priorities. Women come and go and some will even come back lol. Your 20s and even early 30s are a golden time in life that you’ll never get back. Be responsible fellas. Focus on getting on capital, security and living for your goals. Women will come. Just don’t focus on them so heavily.
 

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I think a serious question we need to address as men is how does the ability to have sex with women impact our lives as men at the different stages in our life past adolescence.

Start with the positive effects. Im curious to see what the responses are since we are well aware of the negative impact that it can have on a man’s life.
 
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