Who is african American greatest leader ever
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MLK was more influenced by Marx than Garvey. Garvey tried to use Calitalism(which blacks are oppressed under/lack of capital)to liberate blacks. While MLK"s ideas were more in the realm of Socialism.
K.O.N.Y
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your over simplifying the hell out of this
what country do you live in?
UltimateSource
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These are simple yes or no, 1word answer questions, sir.
BodeineBrazy
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Garvey never learned from Dubois, he never liked Dubois.
Which stemmed from Dubois not coming to a few of his speeches when he first arrived in the US, they only had interaction once prior to that. They were extremely different in their approaches and Dubois was an absolute Boule member and a c00n. He made numerous references to Garvey's darkskin in negative light. So Stop it...
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The UNIA was like 4 million strong,
MLK never had 4 MILLION FOLLOWERS
Malcolm never had 4 MILLION FOLLOWERS...
That shyt is not even a debate.
Ya'll need to do ya'll history. Just the money that Garvey raised locally would put The Nation to shame. That man was amazing.
It's not a competition, but im a very big fan of Garvey, and I hate how the GOAT gets overlooked.
UltimateSource
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Honest question here. What has his legacy done to improve the lives of Black people today, 2016?
BodeineBrazy
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his legacy is the catalyst for everyone that we r discussing in this thread.
We love Malcolm, but Malcolms parents were Garveyites, and so was Malcolm... we can talk about Huey P., but if you read "Revolutionary Suicide" he blatantly states that there is no BPP, without Malcolms ideals, and there is no Malcolm or Nation without Garvey. Thats why I feel like he doesnt get enough props.
People only think about what they can see in front of them. But a true revolution spans many different generations. For him to have that COURAGE back then and to be so successful AT THAT TIME is disgustingly overlooked.
For all he did, u dont even really learn about him in school.
I see NO ONE as of yet has given a solid argument on how Garvey SUCCESSFULLY helped/influence AAs compared to what MLK was doing.
All I hear is "without Garvey we will not have Malcolm!" or "Stop underrating Garvey!"
Garvey had 4 millipn followers(source?)? Cool. Now show me Garvey's poor people campaign for AAs. Or how he was able to get many upon many legislations passed.
This IS a competition because the thread is about "who is GOAT leader." Garvey is easily disqualified because he is not AA. Not only that his influence is weak on in AA histoty.compared to MLK.
This is all facts.
All I hear is "without Garvey we will not have Malcolm!" or "Stop underrating Garvey!"
Garvey had 4 millipn followers(source?)? Cool. Now show me Garvey's poor people campaign for AAs. Or how he was able to get many upon many legislations passed.
This IS a competition because the thread is about "who is GOAT leader." Garvey is easily disqualified because he is not AA. Not only that his influence is weak on in AA histoty.compared to MLK.
This is all facts.
Box Cutta
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Lewis Black
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That person has not been born yet.
calixprynce
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He was setup by c00ns
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
Martin luther king jr. His philosophy gets shytted on today by dumb ass nikkas. But MLK was the man
havoc
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What Tupac has done for the black community ?Garvey and.
But as far as power and reach, King.
BodeineBrazy
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MLK was the same one who said he was leading his people into a burning house.
Garvey was succeeding at the one thing that people bytch and complain about now INFRASTRUCTURE and SELF SUFFICIENCY.
Garvey had 4 million followers, use google. Source is Wiki, Biography.com or anywhere on the internet. It's a known fact.
NY, is in America Right... so selling out MSG full of AA's, is void because he was born in Jamaica. Hmmmm yeah ok.
No internet or TV back then, remember that.
"The New Negro Has No FEAR!"
The UNIA was primarily a back to Africa Movement. But they also set up independent black manufacturing factories and trade routes. He bargained us our own land in Africa. No one can compare. He was trying to empower our people. How can getting blacks on a bus compare to that?
Lets talk about that bus thing, Rosa Parks right? A major reason she decided to not get off the bus was Garvey lol... Rosa's grandparents were in the UNIA, she was a follower of Garvey, her parents fought the Klan inspired by MARCUS MOSIAH GARVEY.
We shoulda stuck with what Garvey was trying to do, now it's too late. Because he didnt want to sit on the front of any bus, he wanted to have his own fukking bus.
MLK aint never have that type of juice. I respect MLK tho. But there is a reason he has a statue in Washington.
LMAO @ Garvey is disqualified because he isnt AA? none of us are AA, we're all black... that was the entire point of what Garvey was trying to say... hence the red, black and green flag.
Ya'll still fixated on this idea that somehow this country will allow you in. And MLK represents that hope to ya'll, but when we keep it real the black man has two choices at this point, leave and start over or just accept that you are a permanent underclass in society. Garvey saw that 100 years ago and fought for us to be able to be TRULY FREE. Not fake FREE...
Garvey is the GOAT.
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