Who had the most impact to a federation without ever needing to be world champion?

[TRIPLE M]

Has to be Piper in 85

 

[hayesc0]

Hall without a doubt.

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

Rob Van Dam in ECW is a no brainer

 

[The Don]

Dynamite Kid and on the low...dean malenko

 

[FromStLouis]

So why does WWE need two male heavyweight world titles today?

Anyway, I'll throw out Arn Anderson.

 

[Leonard Washington]

Scott Hall was the first name that came to mind

 

[MrFirst2doit]

Although he's been WWE champion, the answer is career wise Undertaker...he's really for the bulk of his career been out of the world title picture...now you probably saying he a 7 time world champ...that's true however.. Peep this

4 time WWE Champion at 238 total days
3 time WWE World Heavyweight Champion at 210 total

That's 448 days from 1989-2018 ....29 years...

That's not all that much...that's basically new days tag team reign

 

[Lucha Vandross]

Although he's been WWE champion, the answer is career wise Undertaker...he's really for the bulk of his career been out of the world title picture...now you probably saying he a 7 time world champ...that's true however.. Peep this

4 time WWE Champion at 238 total days
3 time WWE World Heavyweight Champion at 210 total

That's 448 days from 1989-2018 ....29 years...

That's not all that much...that's basically new days tag team reign

Damner shorter than fukkkin Alexa bliss

 

[Him]

Although he's been WWE champion, the answer is career wise Undertaker...he's really for the bulk of his career been out of the world title picture...now you probably saying he a 7 time world champ...that's true however.. Peep this

4 time WWE Champion at 238 total days
3 time WWE World Heavyweight Champion at 210 total

That's 448 days from 1989-2018 ....29 years...

That's not all that much...that's basically new days tag team reign

Taker never really needed a title though

 

[jackswstd]

Has to be Piper. I don’t think anyone else could’ve been put in that position with Hogan at the time.

 

[FRIED MASON]

Magnum TA, he would've won eventually.

 

[Cuckkleberry Finn]

Rob Van Dam in ECW is a no brainer

There’s plenty of examples of the secondary belt carrying a fed at a given time but RVDs TV title run set the bar

 

[BrehWyatt]

There’s plenty of examples of the secondary belt carrying a fed at a given time but RVDs TV title run set the bar

There's a spin thread right here. Best secondary championship run/reign.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Lack of Million Dollar Man replies.

 

[DANJ!]

Has to be Piper. I don’t think anyone else could’ve been put in that position with Hogan at the time.

Yeap. That angle made him almost as much a celeb as Hogan, T, and Cyndi Lauper when that WrestleMania wave came in. He was the bad guy that kicked Cyndi and tried to fight T, brought so much attention to the show. He was 100% right when he said he made Mania just as much as Hogan did. If he hadn't left in '87, he probably would've been in Macho's position in '88.



dude was damn near about to go mainstream.