Who had it worse, the native american or the African American?

[Julius Skrrvin]

Same thing with African Americans.

Yeah, but yall arent an endangered species. These people have nothing left. At least the american black is a cultural powerhouse, and you do have some representation in government. The natives have nothing but some space, reparations and pity. Simply put, they have no hope or future.

 

[Geek]

Iono, at least those Tribes got these casinos here in CT.

Shout outs to Mohegan and Foxwoods.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Iono, at least those Tribes got these casinos here in CT.

Shout outs to Mohegan and Foxwoods.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=95944

Despite an explosion of Indian gambling revenues — from $100 million in 1988 to $8.26 billion a decade later — an Associated Press computer analysis of federal unemployment, poverty and public assistance records indicates the majority of American Indians have benefited little.

 

[boskey]

Native Americans have protected status and sovereignty. So there is your answer.

Have you seen how theyre living on those reservations? Aint nothing "protected" about it. Horrible conditions generally and not really "sovereign" in any useful way (but they got Casinos tho). I'd GLADLY go live on them Keef blocks in Chicago before living on any Indian Reservation...

Black folks should look at the Native Americans as an example to see exactly how far generations of government dependence will get you.

 

[HollowPoints2]

Have you seen how theyre living on those reservations? Aint nothing "protected" about it. Horrible conditions generally and not really "sovereign" in any useful way (but they got Casinos tho). I'd GLADLY go live on them Keef blocks in Chicago before living on any Indian Reservation...

Black folks should look at the Native Americans as an example to see exactly how far generations of government dependence will get you.

Do you think government dependence messed them up.

government can make a ppl lazy.

 

[boskey]

Do you think government dependence messed them up.

government can make a ppl lazy.

Naw I think blood-thirsty cacs messed them up. The government benefits were just the final swindle.

For the record I'm not a conservative pull yourself up by the bootstraps type...but I am a liberal pull yourself up by the bootstraps type. If people need help then they should be able to get it from the government. But that should never be permanent. Government is only gonna give you the bare minimum and money alone can't fix most of the underlying issues in poor communities.

 

[kingofnyc]

So-called African Americans because there is immense hate and prejudice for our people to this day. The so-called Native Americans had it terrible also, but that's mostly due to them nearly being wiped out by the Devil. But at the very least, so-called Native Americans get some form of reparations and most white people agree that it was horrible what happened to them. Ask those same devils about so called Blacks, and they will tell you to get over slavery and get off welfare.

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

Have you seen how theyre living on those reservations? Aint nothing "protected" about it. Horrible conditions generally and not really "sovereign" in any useful way (but they got Casinos tho). I'd GLADLY go live on them Keef blocks in Chicago before living on any Indian Reservation...

Black folks should look at the Native Americans as an example to see exactly how far generations of government dependence will get you.

In the state of Florida, the Seminole and Miccosukee tribe of Florida both generate over 2 Billion in casino gambling revenue on there own reservations.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...227_1_alan-meister-indian-casinos-table-games

They also both have there own law enforcement departments.

Most of the funding that is made is used to upkeep the reservations, My point the dominant society gave them there own land and protected status rights in which blacks are still told to forget about 400 years of slavery.

 

[boskey]

In the state of Florida, the Seminole and Miccosukee tribe of Florida both generate over 2 Billion in casino gambling revenue on there own reservations.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...227_1_alan-meister-indian-casinos-table-games

They also both have there own law enforcement departments.

Most of the funding that is made is used to upkeep the reservations, My point the dominant society gave them there own land and protected status rights in which blacks are still told to forget about 400 years of slavery.

My point is despite all that....I'm not trading places with them.

 

[Sunalmighty]

Didnt Native Americans OWN black slaves though? 5 civilized tribes?

 

[Type Username Here]

Didnt Native Americans OWN black slaves though? 5 civilized tribes?

Again, OP isn't talking about just the United States. He's talking about in general.

And by native american I am referring to all of America, not just north America. By African American I would include all enslaved African within the diaspora.

If we're talking about just the United States, then African Americans definitely had and continue to have it worse (although I still maintain it is much easier to publicly mock Native Americans and that some of the poorest parts of the country are Native American communities).

Look at the entire Americas and the picture is MUCH different.

 

[Brown_Pride]

The difference is would you rather be tortured for 100 years then shot in the head, or tortured to be shot in the head at some time in the future?

As it stands right now I still gotta give it to the Native americans. For all intents and purposes they still live in internment camps, I can see this changing though, sadly at a cost. A lot of the "progress" that they've made comes because the generations from 1900+ up until just recently were kidnapped and indoctrinated in "Indian Schools" (we actually have a street in Phoenix called Indian school because it was the street where this school was located). IN these schools they basically beat the red out of you. This isn't ancient history either literally i've met people in their 50's who i've worked with who were products of these schools. They were basically turned white, their culture destroyed. A lot of the higher ups in the indian communities are these people, educated, but still trying to recapture a culture lost/destroyed. BUT they do have a 1 up in the sense that they have their own nations, as beat down as they are, the prospect for a future is there if they can grab it...which i think they will.

AA in america are fuked. I really can't say i see hope for the future like i do for the NA.

I'd say we're in the range of that pivotal moment were the "who got fuked worse" award is going to be passed on.

 

[Kritic]

the people who have it worst are the ones currently experiencing the injustice. doesn't matter whether they are native american, african american, arab, jew, indian, asian chinese japanese vietnamese, aborigin, white, christian, muslim, athiest etc.....

injustice has to stop period. ain' no time to compare injustices.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

how are we not just talking about the united states when black americans are only in the united states. As African americans we are a specific ethnic group, not just anyone of african descent. This thread doesnt make any sense

 

[Fervid]

injustice has to stop period. ain' no time to compare injustices.

In your opinion, is the universe "just"?