"Who are the Knicks? Brunson, Brunson and some other Knickas" " - Official '23 NYK Offseason Thread

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The Bulls situation is probably more grim than the Knicks. Knicks have their picks, Chicago's goes to the Magic if it's out of the top 4.

Even if they blow it up and bottom out, there's a high chance that they lose a lottery pick.

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Also, our "Mid 3" doesn't play well together. Lonzo Ball signing was a complete bust, Donovan turns sour on young players and they look a lot better else where (WCJ and Lauri for now, this may be the case for Coby and Pat eventually). Zach starting to publicly beef with Billy etc.

If the team didn't somehow miraculously beat Boston and Milwaukee after losing to Orlando they would be in complete shambles right now instead of being on the brink of it.

How do you feel on the Derozan and Vuc to LA rumor?
 

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How do you feel on the Derozan and Vuc to LA rumor?
I've started thinking about an incoming pivot for this team a few weeks ago. I was already thinking about potential teams that would give up 1sts for DeMar.

Lakers and Clippers came to mind immediately. If the have a fire sale, I would be fine with it, the only thing that's meh is how long the wait would be to get picks back from both LA teams. If OKC didn't have all of the Clippers picks, they would be a better team to get players back while accumulating picks tho.
 

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I've started thinking about an incoming pivot for this team a few weeks ago. I was already thinking about potential teams that would give up 1sts for DeMar.

Lakers and Clippers came to mind immediately. If the have a fire sale, I would be fine with it, the only thing that's meh is how long the wait would be to get picks back from both LA teams. If OKC didn't have all of the Clippers picks, they would be a better team to get players back while accumulating picks tho.
the Knicks, Lakers, and Bulls actually work really well as trade partners.

Chicago Sends Out: Derozan, Vucevic, Ayo
Chicago Gets: Julius Randle, Patrick Beverly, 2027 Lakers pick, Two Knicks protected pick(s) (maybe the Mavs 23 and Bucks 25)

LA Sends Out: Russell Westbrook, Patrick Beverly, 2027 Lakers Pick, 2029 Lakers Pick
LA Gets: Derozan, Vucevic, Fournier

NY Send Out: Julius Randle, Fournier, Two Knicks protected pick(s) (maybe the Mavs 23 and Bucks 25)
NY Gets: Russell Westbrook, Ayo, Lakers 2029

Chicago gets a upgrade at PF, three first rounders, and Patrick Beverly who might work well next to Lavine at PG.

LA gets Derozan, Vucevic, and a bench scorer in Fournier

NY gets out of two of its vet contracts, they get another kid with some upside in Ayo, and consolidate their protected picks into an unprotected 2029 Lakers pick
 
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Based on what Ian Bagley said yesterday the Knicks aren’t interested in a rebuild.

So based on that statement It’s clear they are waiting for the shoe to drop on either Shai Alexander or Zach Lavine (since I don’t see anybody else available right now).

Considering the situations with the Bulls and the money involved I have to believe Zach Lavine may be available first before Shai. Chicago is underperforming and Zach has a 200+ million dollar extension incoming.

And if Woj is right the lakers have tried to go after Demar and Nikola. If Chicago is even entertaining that trade Zach can’t be too far behind.


To be honest I don’t know how good Zach Lavine is anymore but we have to stop going on these offensive stretches were we are only scoring 5 points in 4-5 minute spans. I would love to get Shai but that feels like a fleeting dream at this point.
It seems like Trae Young could be the next star on the move.

I haven’t seen any indication OKC is trading Shai.

After Trae it seems DeRozan/LaVine and then KAT would be the next stars on the move.

I would have much gave up the haul for Mitchell then for any of those guys honestly.
 

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While I'm talking shiit about the Knicks, it seems like a lot of teams are suffering silently in chaos. I didn't know about the bulls and hawks. I know the lakers want to make moves. This could be good and get them to clear Randle.

RJ is too garbage to offer to another team but they can limit his minutes and get Lavine and Grimes out there.

In this case, I'd trade Randle, IQ, Rose, one other guard and a few picks for another star then clear space to give Duece some minutes.
 
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