White people voted for Romney just cause he's white

[MeachTheMonster]

Bro, stop reducing it down to race

those who voted for Romney, agreed with the:
- republican military philosophy the only issue both parties mostly agree on. Criticisms of Obama about foreign policy from republicans are that he's "weak" "un-American" "Muslim"(read: Black) and he goes around "shucking and jiving" with terrorists
- belief that Obama is the cause for the economic stagnation
what makes them ignore reality?
- belief that the federal government was the cause for all our problems
read above
- belief that the republican party represents 'hard working ppl and ppl that really want jobs'
because the democrats support minorities, and we all know they're lazy food stamp recipients
- belief that the democratic party creates a welfare state
read above
- belief that America was trending toward a demonic morality not of a Christian nature
they want their old(read: white segregated) America back

They may call it something new, or frame their argument different but at the end of the day it's just pure old school racism, with a new school twist. They can't call us ******s anymore. So they call us "different" "un-American" "urban" "entitled"

 

[Huellz Santana]

Yea but the poor white southern people have always voted for the republicans.

:hold:

south was mostly democratic back in the day buddy. clinton and carter were southern rednecks (for lack of a better term).​

 

[MeachTheMonster]

...and nothing. you said "And it had nothing to do with any other demographic, race was the only deciding factor."

"nothing" and "only" are 2 absolute terms IMO

What I mean by "nothing to do with any other demographic" is that if you group voters in any other group. Sex, age, education, income,etc the only consistency is that if they were white they more likely to vote for Romney.

Your just tryin to argue. First you say that I said no white people voted for Obama, then it's "11 percent of Romney's voters were non-white" now you want to argue over what terms I'm using.

What are you really trying to say? The fact stands that 89% of Romney's votes came from white people. If you can't see that race played a big part in this election than indont know what to tell you

 

[BamdaDon]

When I think of all the people who vote Democratic or Republican I know it normally breaks down to one thing.... Money, regardless of race seems like everybody I know who is making some good money with their own business is /was a Republican and all the people I know that are just your working class type are Democrat regardless of race.

 

[daze23]

Black peole very consistently vote 90+% Democrat in presidential elections and have been for decades. If the Democratic candidate was white there's no doubt that they'd get almost the same percentage of the black vote.

Whereas the white vote leaned significantly more Republican this election than usual. So if you want to argue (and I don't think it's a great argument) about people voting for the guy that's the same race as them, it's actually white people have have voted in a way that's most outside the norm for them.

Black people would be voting for the guy with the D next to his name anyway, it's white people that decided to lean much more Republican.

idk, those statistics are kinda tricky. they don't take into account the increases in minority voters. in 2008 the increase in non-whites voting was much greater than the decrease of whites voting

I don't doubt that race is a factor in all this. I just disagree with the generalizations being thrown around

 

[tru_m.a.c]

those who voted for Romney, agreed with the:
- republican military philosophy the only issue both parties mostly agree on. Criticisms of Obama about foreign policy from republicans are that he's "weak" "un-American" "Muslim"(read: Black) and he goes around "shucking and jiving" with terrorists

Whens the last time he was called weak on military philosophy? They say he's weak on protecting Israel and striking Iran.

Whites (civilians and military personnel) will tell you striking Iran is stupid. I'm not getting into the protecting Israel stuff. That's a weird hybrid issue. But that is race, ethnicity and religion mixed in 1.

- belief that Obama is the cause for the economic stagnation
what makes them ignore reality?

Math. People do not believe math. The way you frame a question can create multiple "realities." You remember the whole, "is your life better now than it was 4yrs ago" question? You remember how Colbert shut that down in 10 mn by showing that technically 4yrs ago to the day we were discussing the question the market crashed. That's what I'm talking about.

- belief that the republican party represents 'hard working ppl and ppl that really want jobs'
because the democrats support minorities, and we all know they're lazy food stamp recipients

Right, but who is standing up and letting them know that whites are the largest recipients of welfare? A basic principle that anyone who has actually studied it knows. Something that MY own mother doesn't know. You see it has to do with being informed/educated about the basic general principles.

- belief that America was trending toward a demonic morality not of a Christian nature
they want their old(read: white segregated) America back

No. This is a direct reference to the Christian right and how everything to them revolves around "character", "honesty", "morality", "ethics", "God" and just gut feelings. If you listened to conservative radio today, everyone kept proclaiming how good of a man Mitt was. And how he had the ideal family background for the White House.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Whens the last time he was called weak on military philosophy? They say he's weak on protecting Israel and striking Iran.

Whites (civilians and military personnel) will tell you striking Iran is stupid. I'm not getting into the protecting Israel stuff. That's a weird hybrid issue. But that is race, ethnicity and religion mixed in 1.

no other president has been called un-American like Obama has. Do you think they would be accusing a white guy of being a Muslim non-citizen. Why do you think they say he's weak on protecting israel? Cause he's "different" "Muslim" or to those of us that aren't blind it's cause he's black.

Math. People do not believe math. The way you frame a question can create multiple "realities." You remember the whole, "is your life better now than it was 4yrs ago" question? You remember how Colbert shut that down in 10 mn by showing that technically 4yrs ago to the day we were discussing the question the market crashed. That's what I'm talking about.

Why would people ignore math and facts presented to them? Why would people who know they're better off now deny their own truth? Why are they all over the Internet calling Obama a ****** if they're not racist?

Right, but who is standing up and letting them know that whites are the largest recipients of welfare? A basic principle that anyone who has actually studied it knows. Something that MY own mother doesn't know. You see it has to do with being informed/educated about the basic general principles.

It's not about being informed. These poor racist white people know the truth because they are the ones on foodstamps. They are collecting food stamps, ssi, etc. But they claim democratic supporters are lazy and entitled. Again what motivates them to ignore reality?

No. This is a direct reference to the Christian right and how everything to them revolves around "character", "honesty", "morality", "ethics", "God" and just gut feelings. If you listened to conservative radio today, everyone kept proclaiming how good of a man Mitt was. And how he had the ideal family background for the White House.

Mit Romney is Mormon, he gets a pass for being different because he's white

No this is a direct refrence to yesteryear when whites were on top of and in control of everything. They feel like they are loosing "their" America. If this has nothing to do with race than what is it?

I can't understand people like you who claim to see no racism. It's there and it's real, open your eyes.

 

[Rain]

Posted yet?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I can't understand people like you who claim to see no racism. It's there and it's real, open your eyes.

I'm only going to address this because the rest of your "points" are just tangents.

What you're failing to realize, is that Obama doesn't get nominated without the white vote. So obviously, the whites that voted for him had to do so for other reasons beside pity.

At the end of the day, you're being intellectually dishonest because you cannot logically defend the philosophical differences that YOU have with the other party.

Instead you just blame it on whites being racist. But you don't even realize that you create a bigger divide when the only thing that can come out of your mouth is "y'all just hating cause you're white."

I'm not asking you to pander to ppl that don't like you. I'm forcing you to adopt analysis based conclusions. Because you've yet to accept, that there are white ppl out there that love black folks, but can't stand the living hell out of Obama and democrats. There has to be a reason for that no? Well the reason would lie within the facts that they've been presented about the state of the world.

If you don't have the credible knowledge to combat it on the spot, then y'all are both in the wind.

 

[Savior]

People are ignoring the south factor too...theres more blacks in the south than the north. And yet Romney won all those states like 70-30 type ridiculous margins. So its safe to say that Romney was getting like 90% of white votes in states like Miss, Arkansas, etc. That inflates the overall % of whites that voted for Romney by a lot. We already know how the south rolls but you need to split the numbers for north/west to get the true demographics picture

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm only going to address this because the rest of your "points" are just tangents.

What you're failing to realize, is that Obama doesn't get nominated without the white vote. So obviously, the whites that voted for him had to do so for other reasons beside pity.

At the end of the day, you're being intellectually dishonest because you cannot logically defend the philosophical differences that YOU have with the other party.

Instead you just blame it on whites being racist. But you don't even realize that you create a bigger divide when the only thing that can come out of your mouth is "y'all just hating cause you're white."

I'm not asking you to pander to ppl that don't like you. I'm forcing you to adopt analysis based conclusions. Because you've yet to accept, that there are white ppl out there that love black folks, but can't stand the living hell out of Obama and democrats. There has to be a reason for that no? Well the reason would lie within the facts that they've been presented about the state of the world.

If you don't have the credible knowledge to combat it on the spot, then y'all are both in the wind.

When did I ever say whites didn't vote for Obama. Once again I said that Obama had a very diverse group of voters more representative of the American people.

The differences you brung up weren't really differences but more like stereotypes and generalizations that republicans adhere to.

Why don't you adapt "analysis based conclusions" 89% of Romney's votes came from white people, most who wouldn't benefit by his presidency.

Why do you think this is the case? If it has nothing to do with race what is it?

 

[acri1]

People are ignoring the south factor too...theres more blacks in the south than the north. And yet Romney won all those states like 70-30 type ridiculous margins. So its safe to say that Romney was getting like 90% of white votes in states like Miss, Arkansas, etc. That inflates the overall % of whites that voted for Romney by a lot. We already know how the south rolls but you need to split the numbers for north/west to get the true demographics picture

That's true.

And you have states like Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, etc. that Obama won, and you know damn well no black people live there.

But that said I feel a little sorry for black folks in southern/conservative/rural areas...yall better watch your back.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Not really, it's the same shyt.

Black people vote for the black guy, and white people vote for the white guy. But there were also plenty of white people who voted for the black guy, I can't say there were plenty of black people voting for the white guy.

Truth is most voters couldn't even tell you what they're voting for.

clinton
kerry
gore

 

[ecks12]

Not really, it's the same shyt.

Black people vote for the black guy, and white people vote for the white guy. But there were also plenty of white people who voted for the black guy, I can't say there were plenty of black people voting for the white guy.

Truth is most voters couldn't even tell you what they're voting for.

Black people did vote for the white guy in this election.

 

[call_me_step_daddy]

just take a look at this congressional productivity graph

the congress obama has to deal with (the last bar on the end), is on the verge of passing the LEAST amount of laws in the last 65 years..now if race don't play a part in this then please explain what the problem is