"White people listen to music black people used to listen to. Black people don't listen to house"

[How Sway?]

In chicago most of the original house djs from that time are still semi active.
(Frankie knuckles just passed away a few years ago but he was still active until then.).


Plus most of the younger djs in the city parlayed either to ghetto house (and subsequently juke music) or just transitioned to hiphop.

I think that has more to do with the tastes of the masses just changing because a lot of the og house djs still have a large following in Europe.

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

In chicago most of the original house djs from that time are still semi active.
(Frankie knuckles just passed away a few years ago.).


Plus most of the younger djs in the city parlayed either to ghetto house (and subsequently juke music) or just transitioned to hiphop.

I think that has more to do with the tastes of the masses just changing because a lot of the og house djs still have a large following in Europe.

Ron Trent (my most favorite Chicago House DJ) was just here in DC earlier last month at the Rock The Park festival. I was in that crowd when he performed, he had the whole park going crazy

 

[IllmaticDelta]

How is it not true?

It is already known that house was an east coast/Midwest phenomenon, which is why there’s no need to point that out.

And how tf are you gonna say none of what I said was true, and then proceed to say the exact shyt I just said about how EuroCACS appropriated it?

na... @frush11 is 90% on point with what he said

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most of the actual producers of early House music were straight and are still alive; the problem was, the black EDM scenes in the USA are very local to the places that @frush11 already mentioned and not mainstream like HipHop or R&B proper, was so the music got lost in the shuffle of EuroCac appropriation within the masses (these EuroCacs are more aware of the black pioneers than most black people or white americans).

 

[IllmaticDelta]

None off this is true, House never really grew outside off the core cities, NYC, North Jersey, Bmore, Chicago, Detroit, DC.

There was a small movement with HipHouse in the late 80s. But by the 90s House got seen as White Euro Dance, and also powers that be Essentially phased House music from the Black American Music lexicon on purpose, cause it's too damn positive and uplifting.

Agreed with you on everything except this part: Most black americans who aren't from NYC/JERSEY/CHICAGO/DETROIT on their own think of House music/EDM in general as some "homo music" from Europe lol; White americans themselves unless they come from those same regions think EDM originated from Europe also. House music in the USA never had a chance competing with HipHop and R&B proper, which is why you had hybrids like HipHouse




and R&B/Gospel-House

 

[hatealot]

Yall really teaching me something here about somr music history. I was too young for house music nor exposed to it. Good to learn

I always thought of house as gay music in nyc. But that's far from the truth.

Now that I think about it, my older sister was I to it.

 

[big bun]

I didn’t appreciate house music until I got older and started clubbing. I grew up in that late 80s/early 90s era when it was prevalent in hip hop so I knew the music, just never appreciated it until I went to a house club and was like .

 

[frush11]

Agreed with you on everything except this part: Most black americans who aren't from NYC/JERSEY/CHICAGO/DETROIT on their own think of House music/EDM in general as some "homo music" from Europe lol; White americans themselves unless they come from those same regions think EDM originated from Europe also. House music in the USA never had a chance competing with HipHop and R&B proper, which is why you had hybrids like HipHouse




and R&B/Gospel-House

You're sorta right. Maybe me growing up in the DC area skewed my perspective some. Because I remember Cece Peniston(I know her sound was the perfect Blend of R&B and House), Crystal waters, and even Robin S getting most off their spins on Black radio and BET

 

[frush11]

The story off House Music is a very fascinating one and should be explored deeper. Because the real foundation folks like Flowers, Pete Jones, certain Queens and Uptown djs get left out off the story. When they set the tone, especially Flowers who was a big influence on Levan and Knuckles.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You're sorta right. Maybe me growing up in the DC area skewed my perspective some. Because I remember Cece Peniston(I know her sound was the perfect Blend of R&B and House), Crystal waters, and even Robin S getting most off their spins on Black radio and BET

yup...they were the kind of "House" music that R&B heads were listening to or the "R&B" songs that crossed over into the underground dance music scene

 

[hatealot]

Now that I think about it. Going to skate key I'm the Bronx in the 90s, I think they where playing nothing but house music.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The story off House Music is a very fascinating one and should be explored deeper. Because the real foundation folks like Flowers, Pete Jones, certain Queens and Uptown djs get left out off the story. When they set the tone, especially Flowers who was a big influence on Levan and Knuckles.

Those NYC djs shaped what we now consider Disco; Levan definitely shaped what would become NY/Jersey Garage, while Knuckles brought the Disco sound to Chicago and from there, Ron Hardy would shape (more than Knuckles) what would become Chicago House

 

[Sankofa Alwayz]

Now that I think about it. Going to skate key I'm the Bronx in the 90s, I think they where playing nothing but house music.

House music is some of the best music to roller stake to or listen to while cleaning your crib or studying:

 

[frush11]

Those NYC djs shaped what we now consider Disco; Levan definitely shaped what would become NY/Jersey Garage, while Knuckles brought the Disco sound to Chicago and from there, Ron Hardy would shape (more than Knuckles) what would become Chicago House

As a matter of fact Levan was going to early Flowers party. Flowers was Roosevelt and if I'm not mistaken Levan was from Breevort.

But Flowers, Jones and those other guys regularly played at Studio 54, Paradise, Loft and all those downtown spots.

Shiit Paradise Garage had to create 2 nights. Because the first party, it was mad Blacks and Ricans that showed up. So they created 2 nights, one for the "Urban" crew and the other for the downtown, celeb, gay crew

 

[IllmaticDelta]

As a matter of fact Levan was going to early Flowers party. Flowers was Roosevelt and if I'm not mistaken Levan was from Breevort.

But Flowers, Jones and those other guys regularly played at Studio 54, Paradise, Loft and all those downtown spots.

Shiit Paradise Garage had to create 2 nights. Because the first party, it was mad Blacks and Ricans that showed up. So they created 2 nights, one for the "Urban" crew and the other for the downtown, celeb, gay crew

yup...also a nod to tee scott

w/ knuckles and levan

Late at night in a New York dive bar on 49th Street between 8th and 9th Avenue, Tee Scott would preach the disco gospel to his congregation. As one of the residents at the party Better Days, Bronx-born Tee Scott was part of a crew of black gay DJs in the early days of house music in New York City, and played a pivotal role in shaping the city’s dance music underground. His residency at Better Days from 1972-80 was defined by his smooth mixing style, his use of three turntables and sound effects live in the booth, and taste in uplifting gospel, disco, soul and R&B – music with messages of love and kindness, intended to bring people together on the dancefloor. His DJing operated in tandem with his skill as a remixer, working his magic on anthems such as First Choice’s “Love Thang” and Roberta Flack and Donnie Hathaway’s “Back Together Again.

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Boyd Jarvis

A synthesizer and organ player, as well as a radio and club DJ, Jarvis was a native of East Orange, New Jersey. He began hitting New York clubs as an early-Seventies teen, when there was little separation musically between the nascent disco and hip-hop scenes, and he cited Larry Levan, Tee Scott, Nicky Siano, Grandmaster Flowers, and Pete “DJ” Jones as favorite DJs.

^^ this overlaps with some real early chi-town house

Credited to Visual and issued the following year on Prelude, its plangent feel and simple patterns are a clear precedent for the Windy City’s recombinant cheapo disco, and it precedes the first Chicago house records by a year.

 

[frush11]

yup...also a nod to tee scott

w/ knuckles and levan

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Boyd Jarvis

^^ this overlaps with some real early chi-town house

Yep big Up Tee Scott

Great post