Which spiderman story is worse? Sins past or One more day

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One More Day is worse and I'm going to tell you all why:

One More Day wasn't a creator taking a stab to try something new; it was an editorial mandate brought upon by an EIC who disliked something and wanted it to go back to his childhood. It was all this nostalgia bullshyt writ large and did nothing for any character involved.

1. Peter looks like a baby who can't let go of his mommy. On no plane of existence would Aunt May want Peter to sacrifice his marriage for her. She wants him to be happy and live the life she and Ben got to live. He'd want him to keep growing and be the supportive husband for his wife.

2. MJ knows this as well, and would never put Peter in a position where he's even forced to make the choice. Would she choose for him? Yes. But she'd also respect him enough to take his input. Quesada and everyone involved let the woman be the sacrificial lamb to avoid tossing blame at Peter and that's a cop out.


Now, let's get to the other bullshyt they said they'd get to do post One More Day. We were told they'd do "spider-man stories we couldn't tell with a married Peter Parker" Oh word? You can't tell the story of Peter going back to work for the bugle when he's married? Funny, cause he did that while he was married.

Can't tell the story of Norman coming back to torture Peter?

Can't tell the story of a businessman/philanthropist who moonlights as a crime lord?

The only things they added to the stories they would've already told was one or two love interests that ultimately went nowhere because clearly the writers didn't believe in them enough and the fans weren't receptive. So they did nothing but move Peter backwards for the sake of moving him backwards.

Then they did that damn O.M.I.T. story to explain what happened to Peter and MJ in this new reality, which also had everyone out of character. MJ once again decides she can't be with Peter because he's spider-man. Really? That's the angle we're going for? This is one of the strongest characters in the whole damn comic universe and for them to keep going back to this "she can't handle it" thing is bullshyt. And once again, Peter is a bystander in his life while everyone else around him makes decisions.

So no new stories were told that they couldn't tell with him being married. No characters advanced at all. And in fact, the most advancement came when Dan Slott put MJ back in the book prominently and really addressed MJ and Peter's relationship as adults. Fast forward all these years later and that genie Joey Q wanted back in the bottle so damn much...is out again and the two are a couple and living together. So what exactly did that storyline accomplish?

One More Day is a 15 yard pass play that's wiped out due to offensive pass interference :hhh:

I was going to come in here and say Sins Past , but damn breh you’ve convinced me.
 

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I gotta go with sins past since they had this abomination
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Nope one more is dumbest shyt ever

Peter parker sacrificed his marriage to save aunt may ok.......but mephistopheles takes people marriages now? And for what fukking reason? Not like peter remembers or aunt may died right after or some fukking twist. Nope he just collects marriages for fun.
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One More Day is worse and I'm going to tell you all why:

One More Day wasn't a creator taking a stab to try something new; it was an editorial mandate brought upon by an EIC who disliked something and wanted it to go back to his childhood. It was all this nostalgia bullshyt writ large and did nothing for any character involved.

1. Peter looks like a baby who can't let go of his mommy. On no plane of existence would Aunt May want Peter to sacrifice his marriage for her. She wants him to be happy and live the life she and Ben got to live. He'd want him to keep growing and be the supportive husband for his wife.

2. MJ knows this as well, and would never put Peter in a position where he's even forced to make the choice. Would she choose for him? Yes. But she'd also respect him enough to take his input. Quesada and everyone involved let the woman be the sacrificial lamb to avoid tossing blame at Peter and that's a cop out.


Now, let's get to the other bullshyt they said they'd get to do post One More Day. We were told they'd do "spider-man stories we couldn't tell with a married Peter Parker" Oh word? You can't tell the story of Peter going back to work for the bugle when he's married? Funny, cause he did that while he was married.

Can't tell the story of Norman coming back to torture Peter?

Can't tell the story of a businessman/philanthropist who moonlights as a crime lord?

The only things they added to the stories they would've already told was one or two love interests that ultimately went nowhere because clearly the writers didn't believe in them enough and the fans weren't receptive. So they did nothing but move Peter backwards for the sake of moving him backwards.

Then they did that damn O.M.I.T. story to explain what happened to Peter and MJ in this new reality, which also had everyone out of character. MJ once again decides she can't be with Peter because he's spider-man. Really? That's the angle we're going for? This is one of the strongest characters in the whole damn comic universe and for them to keep going back to this "she can't handle it" thing is bullshyt. And once again, Peter is a bystander in his life while everyone else around him makes decisions.

So no new stories were told that they couldn't tell with him being married. No characters advanced at all. And in fact, the most advancement came when Dan Slott put MJ back in the book prominently and really addressed MJ and Peter's relationship as adults. Fast forward all these years later and that genie Joey Q wanted back in the bottle so damn much...is out again and the two are a couple and living together. So what exactly did that storyline accomplish?

One More Day is a 15 yard pass play that's wiped out due to offensive pass interference :hhh:

Preach

As much as I liked joe q his obsession with gwen stacy and trying to get her back as peter parker love interest was some bullshyt.
 

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Ohh and sins past showed gwen would fukk norman Osborn but not peter parker?

:unimpressed:

Mind you he knew those kids were not his because he never slept with her
:unimpressed:

God damn marvel
Fun fact they were suppose to be his kids who norman manipulated after gwen had them in secret but they made J. Michael Straczynski's change it. So gwen looks like a bytch and the woman he loved before mj never even let hit once.
:unimpressed:

J. Michael Straczynski's was doing a damn good job with spider man at this point but they really kept fukking with him.
 

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One More day was badass...:wow: sins past wasnt neccessary...:scust: gwen would never sleep with green goblin FOH... writers just writing for shock value...

Get the fukk out of here with that shyt.

You know what you are right the set up and story would be good if the ending wasn't such bullshyt. Peter parker getting hit by from all his villains who know him and spiderman are the same price and aunt may paying the same price as uncle ben. Her last words to him could have given him more motivation to be spider man. But for some reason the devil wants a marriage.:unimpressed:

Ohh your aunts is alive and everyone forgot you are spiderman
:unimpressed:

You think mephistopheles collects marriage certificates like baseball cards. And if that marriage never existed they rise in value to him?
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Gwen Stacy is a goodie two shoe character like Jean and Sue Richards..it just dont make any fukking sense.

That wasn't it for me. Peter never had sex with her. Before they were making this woman the love of his life. Mary Jane wanted him from day one but he never had sex with gwen
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One More Day is worse and I'm going to tell you all why:

One More Day wasn't a creator taking a stab to try something new; it was an editorial mandate brought upon by an EIC who disliked something and wanted it to go back to his childhood. It was all this nostalgia bullshyt writ large and did nothing for any character involved.

1. Peter looks like a baby who can't let go of his mommy. On no plane of existence would Aunt May want Peter to sacrifice his marriage for her. She wants him to be happy and live the life she and Ben got to live. He'd want him to keep growing and be the supportive husband for his wife.

2. MJ knows this as well, and would never put Peter in a position where he's even forced to make the choice. Would she choose for him? Yes. But she'd also respect him enough to take his input. Quesada and everyone involved let the woman be the sacrificial lamb to avoid tossing blame at Peter and that's a cop out.


Now, let's get to the other bullshyt they said they'd get to do post One More Day. We were told they'd do "spider-man stories we couldn't tell with a married Peter Parker" Oh word? You can't tell the story of Peter going back to work for the bugle when he's married? Funny, cause he did that while he was married.

Can't tell the story of Norman coming back to torture Peter?

Can't tell the story of a businessman/philanthropist who moonlights as a crime lord?

The only things they added to the stories they would've already told was one or two love interests that ultimately went nowhere because clearly the writers didn't believe in them enough and the fans weren't receptive. So they did nothing but move Peter backwards for the sake of moving him backwards.

Then they did that damn O.M.I.T. story to explain what happened to Peter and MJ in this new reality, which also had everyone out of character. MJ once again decides she can't be with Peter because he's spider-man. Really? That's the angle we're going for? This is one of the strongest characters in the whole damn comic universe and for them to keep going back to this "she can't handle it" thing is bullshyt. And once again, Peter is a bystander in his life while everyone else around him makes decisions.

So no new stories were told that they couldn't tell with him being married. No characters advanced at all. And in fact, the most advancement came when Dan Slott put MJ back in the book prominently and really addressed MJ and Peter's relationship as adults. Fast forward all these years later and that genie Joey Q wanted back in the bottle so damn much...is out again and the two are a couple and living together. So what exactly did that storyline accomplish?

One More Day is a 15 yard pass play that's wiped out due to offensive pass interference :hhh:
And they powered Mephisto up insanely, since when the fukk could he basically be the Beyonder?
 

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:patrice: Married spidey ain't relatable but female characters like scarlet witch going mad and wrecking reality is
:patrice:Joe Q on some shyt

I get why they did that to the avengers. Got to remember during this time spider man and xmen were the top comics. But the beef with fox and movie rights must have been deep because avengers got a big push or the new writers and editors just liked the avengers more. I think it was a little of both personally.
 

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And they powered Mephisto up insanely, since when the fukk could he basically be the Beyonder?

Mephistopheles is pretty much god in his realm. But I guess he can only extend that power to 616 when he sees a marriage he can get rid of. I mean with all his interactions with the silver surfer you would think he would offer him a similar deal. :unimpressed:
 

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Ohh why I hate one more day and @MartyMcFly touched on this they were not allowing spider man to grow. I was collecting the amazing spider man run and had every issue from the early 80s up to that point. I noticed they were really running in place with there stories. For some reason they wanted Peter to be broke but his wife is a super model and actress. Why was he still working at the daily bugle? They killed aunt may in a cool scene where she always knew he was spiderman and moved on. Then the clone saga happened. :snoop:
Oh yeah mary Jane was pregnant. Damn I hope Peter can save his baby daughter from norman Osborn. I mean they have a spider girl comic so he is going to get his child back. Turns out norman Osborn had aunt may:snoop:
Yeah that aunt may who died she was actress:why:

So aunt may is back mary Jane does not want Peter parker to be spider man and I know Peter at this point has a degree in biology but he is taking pictures for the bugle? I have been reading the same fukking story for 15 years now. When spiderman took off his mask for civil war and it looked like it was going to last I was in because the stories will have to different now. Then he makes a deal with the devil so save aunt may.:francis:

I was done. I was a loyal fan but they slapped me in the face with that bullshyt. I didn't buy another spider man comic until doc ock was in his body because they were finally doing something different. Dan slott saved that character
 

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Ohh why I hate one more day and @MartyMcFly touched on this they were not allowing spider man to grow. I was collecting the amazing spider man run and had every issue from the early 80s up to that point. I noticed they were really running in place with there stories. For some reason they wanted Peter to be broke but his wife is a super model and actress. Why was he still working at the daily bugle? They killed aunt may in a cool scene where she always knew he was spiderman and moved on. Then the clone saga happened. :snoop:
Oh yeah mary Jane was pregnant. Damn I hope Peter can save his baby daughter from norman Osborn. I mean they have a spider girl comic so he is going to get his child back. Turns out norman Osborn had aunt may:snoop:
Yeah that aunt may who died she was actress:why:

So aunt may is back mary Jane does not want Peter parker to be spider man and I know Peter at this point has a degree in biology but he is taking pictures for the bugle? I have been reading the same fukking story for 15 years now. When spiderman took off his mask for civil war and it looked like it was going to last I was in because the stories will have to different now. Then he makes a deal with the devil so save aunt may.:francis:

I was done. I was a loyal fan but they slapped me in the face with that bullshyt. I didn't buy another spider man comic until doc ock was in his body because they were finally doing something different. Dan slott saved that character

yup to all of this. Slott saved the book along with having a new EIC and new blood in that office. I haven’t had a single issue with Spider-Man since superior Spider-Man.
 

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Ohh yeah about baby may she was out there. You know what would have been cool. Mephistopheles erases the marriage and brings aunt may back but in order to do that since he does not have alot of power on earth he kills baby may to make the deal happen and leaves peter with the knowledge that he sacrificed his wife and his child to save his old ass aunt.
 

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one more day is bad
sins past you can lump with that era of trying something different

One more day tries so hard to get to the point of the deal with Mephisto it's hilarious

there's a panel where peter goes to EVERY superhero and genius of the marvel universe to see if they can heal aunt may and No one can help him
she had a gunshot wound and was in a coma each hero has had worse happen to them and they get back up.
it would've been more clever to have Mephisto actually making the wound worse but whatever
 
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