Which road would you take?

[Mr. Somebody]

that is a very good stance and what i conclude to be the best, being raised a christian myself. does is frustrate you that people do things with an agenda involving jesus. again, not to make the two analogous, but similar to the way people manipulate gay (or general civil rights) to further themselves? what do you think about that type of deception for personal gain?

The civil rights era was established to prevent the mistreatment of friends of African descent but ultimately it was coopted by women, homosexuals and immigrants to further their agendas. I think there are legitimate concerns for these individuals but i think all of these issues should be separate with separate laws/acts/bills etc so we can distinguish each event from one another instead of being lazy and sloppy with legislation and lumping everyone together because not everyones issue, history and agenda are the same, friend.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

The civil rights era was established to prevent the mistreatment of friends of African descent but ultimately it was coopted by women, homosexuals and immigrants to further their agendas. I think there are legitimate concerns for these individuals but i think all of these issues should be separate with separate laws/acts/bills etc so we can distinguish each event from one another instead of being lazy and sloppy with legislation and lumping everyone together because not everyones issue, history and agenda are the same, friend.

i agree with you idealistically but as you said earlier, a man's 'preference' doesn't make him special. all men, ie mankind, are essentially equal, so when it comes to taxes, employment, and healthcare should we not all be treated the same?

 

[VoulezVousCoucher]

No offense but this is kind of a dumb topic. People don't change because they become gay. You don't deliberately decide to be the flamboyant feminine type or not.

If I became gay I'd still do what I do right now

 

[Mr. Somebody]

i agree with you idealistically but as you said earlier, a man's 'preference' doesn't make him special. all men, ie mankind, are essentially equal, so when it comes to taxes, employment, and healthcare should we not all be treated the same?

No we shouldnt. If you're a true christian and you see someone needs help but choose not to help them, using ideology and legislation as a convenient cover, you cant call yourself Christian. Everyone should be treated equally but because we live in the demonic realm we cannot live by ideals. We need legislation written on paper for each group with an issue, so everyones issues are clearly defined and we can assist in helping them as much as we can/ if at all, friend. Lets not get caught up in woulda coulda shoulda because we know what IS at this moment in time in history.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

No offense but this is kind of a dumb topic. People don't change because they become gay. You don't deliberately decide to be the flamboyant feminine type or not.

If I became gay I'd still do what I do right now

Why would a man who says he hates women, sleep with a man that looks like a cheap imitation of a woman? Friend mine as well go on and get him a unattractive woman if its like that, that, friend.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

No offense but this is kind of a dumb topic. People don't change because they become gay. You don't deliberately decide to be the flamboyant feminine type or not.

If I became gay I'd still do what I do right now

i'm assuming you aren't a homosexual, based on your reply so i understand if you don't know. so people are on a more extroverted kind of journey and when they initially come out, they may be "straight acting" or complacent, but as they embrace their sexuality, it manifests in flamboyant ways. i do not totally understand it but i have seen it firsthand.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

No we shouldnt. If you're a true christian and you see someone needs help but choose not to help them, using ideology and legislation as a convenient cover, you cant call yourself Christian. Everyone should be treated equally but because we live in the demonic realm we cannot live by ideals. We need legislation written on paper for each group with an issue, so everyones issues are clearly defined and we can assist in helping them as much as we can/ if at all, friend. Lets not get caught up in woulda coulda shoulda because we know what IS at this moment in time in history.

isn't this indicative of a society that is already completely demonic just based on it's division of peoples, considering that fact that we are all one? i do agree that we cannot afford to or even practically try to live by idealistically, btw. moreover, i agree with living in the now because that is what really matters.

Why would a man who says he hates women, sleep with a man that looks like a cheap imitation of a woman? Friend mine as well go on and get him a unattractive woman if its like that, that, friend.

can't really argue with this logic unless you are (for whatever reason) exclusively homosexual.

 

[VoulezVousCoucher]

Why would a man who says he hates women, sleep with a man that looks like a cheap imitation of a woman? Friend mine as well go on and get him a unattractive woman if its like that, that, friend.

I don't think "gays" hate women, they're just not attracted to them. And perhaps you're confusing transgenders/crossdressers and gays? Gays still dress and look like men, with all the assets that fellow gays are attracted to, from my experience.

The phenomenon you're speaking about though I have seen with lesbians. I don't don't understand it, but it gives me no reason to look down on them for it .

 

[VoulezVousCoucher]

i'm assuming you aren't a homosexual, based on your reply so i understand if you don't know. so people are on a more extroverted kind of journey and when they initially come out, they may be "straight acting" or complacent, but as they embrace their sexuality, it manifests in flamboyant ways. i do not totally understand it but i have seen it firsthand.

so you're saying being flamboyant/feminine is just part of being gay?

and no im not gay.

unless...

 

[Mr. Somebody]

isn't this indicative of a society that is already completely demonic just based on it's division of peoples, considering that fact that we are all one? i do agree that we cannot afford to or even practically try to live by idealistically, btw. moreover, i agree with living in the now because that is what really matters.



can't really argue with this logic unless you are (for whatever reason) exclusively homosexual.

I think its all in their mind and eventually like any bad habit, becomes wired into them chemically. I mean if a man will sleep with a man dressed as a woman, who looks convincing, how far is he from heterosexuality if his only preference is just knowing that its actually a man even though it doesnt look like one.

To effectively live in the now and help friends, you have to understand history and culture. Living in the now allows people a backdoor to misunderstand where people are coming from when the culmination of their now experiences are a result of a particular past.

 

[KOOL-AID]

Demonic thread. What man wants to imagine being cursed with an addiction to sodomy and men. This thread makes zero sense. There is nothing special about an individual because he likes men.

Nice work boss, lets keep up the great job.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

I don't think "gays" hate women, they're just not attracted to them. And perhaps you're confusing transgenders/crossdressers and gays? Gays still dress and look like men, with all the assets that fellow gays are attracted to, from my experience.

The phenomenon you're speaking about though I have seen with lesbians. I don't don't understand it, but it gives me no reason to look down on them for it .

I dont believe lesbians either. There are some women that are born looking mannish and because of their lives and experiences they are often treated Like men and in turn act like men in how they deal with relationships but, there are women that are very feminine who have traumatic experiences and even have children and then decide to be gay because of the trauma with the opposite sex. Again, i think its a choice that becomes solidified by particular chemical stimuli. I have met women that were Lesbians until they met me, and they were willing to put that Lifestyle behind them and join friends. It came down to them just not liking the way men treated them. On the other hand a woman that looks like a man and has a masculine build, you probably wont be able to convince because men arent really approaching her in the same manner and she in her mind, thinks shes a man, which is why she styles herself after men, friend.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Nice work boss, lets keep up the great job.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

Nice work boss, lets keep up the great job.

let's not act like we weren't on TC chatting it up with might very well have been the frog, friend. but i digress.

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which road would you take?

 

[VoulezVousCoucher]

I dont believe lesbians either. There are some women that are born looking mannish and because of their lives and experiences they are often treated Like men and in turn act like men in how they deal with relationships but, there are women that are very feminine who have traumatic experiences and even have children and then decide to be gay because of the trauma with the opposite sex. Again, i think its a choice that becomes solidified by particular chemical stimuli. I have met women that were Lesbians until they met me, and they were willing to put that Lifestyle behind them and join friends. It came down to them just not liking the way men treated them. On the other hand a woman that looks like a man and has a masculine build, you probably wont be able to convince because men arent really approaching her in the same manner and she in her mind, thinks shes a man, which is why she styles herself after men, friend.

But you seem to be applying two very specific scenarios to all lesbians out there, and there is a lot of them. Not sure if all of them would agree with your view of the subject partly based on your personal experience.

Also, how do you explain gay men that were at first view just regular kids, even highschool football stars or what not, and turn gay? Or men that had formed a family turning gay? Do they all boil down to a traumatic experience? Or a mistreatment from the opposite sex? Something to think about.

Also there is guys that were just never attracted to girls to begin with, from the moment they started developing sexual feelings .