Which has been the more silly and destructive made up concept: race or religion?

Race or religion

  • Race

    Votes: 22 53.7%
  • Religion

    Votes: 19 46.3%

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Because it's a social construct by definition, stemming from the human desire to label or categorize. Want some somewhat entertaining examples? Take a look at any thread about a mixed *Black* individual and see people struggle to decide whether the individual is mostly, Black, White, etc. The subject of genetics is a very complicated one. Religion though? :wow:One can't even fathom all of the flagrant things that have occurred as a result of religion.

We label and categorize because we are different might as well go blind if you think we are all the same . Inside our bodies are alike but we have a outer appearance which I think genes determine also. We don't understand genetics so we play the guessing game with mixed people because their genes are so random.


Nothing wrong with religion its organized religion that is the problem and until someone can come back from the dead and tell everyone what happened or explore the universe not from a telescope or explain the unexplained their is a higher power
 

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:what:Neither are good answers.
:martin: For one race isn't a made up concept. It's clear physical and deep rooted bilogical differences between most of the non hybridized races. A boxer,poodle and chihuahua aren't all the same. They're all different sub species of dogs. If you treated and fed a chihuahua like a pitbull you'd kill it.

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:what: The only differences between human "races" are superficial, external traits such as skin color, hair texture, facial features, etc.
 

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:martin: For one race isn't a made up concept. It's clear physical and deep rooted bilogical differences between most of the non hybridized races. A boxer,poodle and chihuahua aren't all the same. They're all different breeds of dogs. If you treated and fed a chihuahua like a pitbull you'd kill it.

:aicmon:The choices should be the concept of class. From class and wealth stems most of the world's problems.
:heh: Or humanities shytty self entitlement to subjugate the earth.
 

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:what: The only differences between human "races" are superficial, external traits such as skin color, hair texture, facial features, etc.
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Let's take white and black people for example because it's easier and funnier that way. Contrary to the popular belief all humans aren't the same when we talk about the genetic structure of various people.
Now let's look at cellular structure of a black person and white person. White people have pheomelanin which has sulfur at it's core. Black people have eumelanin which has selenium at it's core. Why is this important? Melanin is a chemical key to life.
Melanin goes beyond skin color. All the cells in the human by require melanin to function properly. Knowing this we can move on to discuss about how pheomelanin (Caucasian melanin) has sulfur at it's core. This is why white people are able to digest, diary and meat better than people of african descent because sulfur is an acid. So right there that's one major gentical difference between races to refute your point. It's a lot more. If you respond be do so with sources of your information because what you said is scientifically wrong.
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Sources.
Melanin: What makes Black People Black by Dr Llaila Afrika

Lactose intolerance seems linked to ancestral struggles with harsh climate and cattle diseases, Cornell study finds | Cornell Chronicle
Melanin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Religion....up until the advent of capitalism most wars in the west were religion based and virtually ALL of them in the middle east and india and it was the basis for which manifest destiny, the Atlantic slave trade and the Holocaust (to some extent).

Excluding wars of succession which was also a large factor in war.

Yeah thats an easy one.
 
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Let's take white and black people for example because it's easier and funnier that way. Contrary to the popular belief all humans aren't the same when we talk about the genetic structure of various people.
Now let's look at cellular structure of a black person and white person. White people have pheomelanin which has sulfur at it's core. Black people have eumelanin which has selenium at it's core. Why is this important? Melanin is a chemical key to life.
Melanin goes beyond skin color. All the cells in the human by require melanin to function properly. Knowing this we can move on to discuss about how pheomelanin (Caucasian melanin) has sulfur at it's core. This is why white people are able to digest, diary and meat better than people of african descent because sulfur is an acid. So right there that's one major gentical difference between races to refute your point. It's a lot more. If you respond be do so with sources of your information because what you said is scientifically wrong.
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Melanin: What makes Black People Black by Dr Llaila Afrika

Lactose intolerance seems linked to ancestral struggles with harsh climate and cattle diseases, Cornell study finds | Cornell Chronicle
Melanin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

that has nothing to do with the scientific classification of homo sapiens sapiens. Human beings are 98% genetic copies of one another and only about 2% makes up what makes us "look different". Any able bodied male can mate with any able bodied female.

Genetic variation =/= Race.

Its two different things...its like what makes some Dalmatians have spots in some places and not in others. The genetic difference between humans is virtually indistinguishable on a genetic level.
 

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Let's take white and black people for example because it's easier and funnier that way. Contrary to the popular belief all humans aren't the same when we talk about the genetic structure of various people.
Now let's look at cellular structure of a black person and white person. White people have pheomelanin which has sulfur at it's core. Black people have eumelanin which has selenium at it's core. Why is this important? Melanin is a chemical key to life.
Melanin goes beyond skin color. All the cells in the human by require melanin to function properly. Knowing this we can move on to discuss about how pheomelanin (Caucasian melanin) has sulfur at it's core. This is why white people are able to digest, diary and meat better than people of african descent because sulfur is an acid. So right there that's one major gentical difference between races to refute your point. It's a lot more. If you respond be do so with sources of your information because what you said is scientifically wrong.
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Sources.
Melanin: What makes Black People Black by Dr Llaila Afrika

Lactose intolerance seems linked to ancestral struggles with harsh climate and cattle diseases, Cornell study finds | Cornell Chronicle
Melanin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


:snoop: Again, these are surface level, genetic variations. Red heads have slightly different genetic differences than blondes, but no one says they're a different race.
 

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Klarifeye The Great said:
Religion....up until the advent of capitalism most wars in the west were religion based and virtually ALL of them in the middle east and india and it was the basis for which manifest destiny, the Atlantic slave trade and the Holocaust (to some extent).

Yeah thats an easy one.

That's all false. Manifest Destiny was nothing more than Imperialism. The Atlantic Slave trade was Imperialism suffused with Capitalism. The Holocaust was over money and land.

Less than 10% of ALL wars in recorded human history are directly attributable to religion.

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that has nothing to do with the scientific classification of homo sapiens sapiens. Human beings are 98% genetic copies of one another and only about 2% makes up what makes us "look different". Any able bodied male can mate with any able bodied female.

Genetic variation =/= Race.

Its two different things...its like what makes some Dalmatians have spots in some places and not in others. The genetic difference between humans is virtually indistinguishable on a genetic level.
:jbhmm: Ehh I need a source on where you got that percentage from. Also when we talk about the origin of humanity. All those caveman findings archaeologist dig up and find. Not one time every in the history has scientist every been able to link neanderthals dna to black. You can have a same species from to different origins. Also neanderthals the structure of the DNA is the same for all living things.
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Edit - Found an article from discovery to go with the video. All Non-Africans Part Neanderthal, Genetics Confirm : DNews
 
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Knowing this we can move on to discuss about how pheomelanin (Caucasian melanin) has sulfur at it's core. This is why white people are able to digest, diary and meat better than people of african descent because sulfur is an acid.


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I always wondered how they were able to indulge in milk and cheeses so easily.......
 

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:snoop: Again, these are surface level, genetic variations. Red heads have slightly different genetic differences than blondes, but no one says they're a different race.
Ehhh we have different cell bases. Eumelaninin has selanin in it's base. While pheomelanin has sulfur at it's base. You can't show me anywhere in nature were the same species of animals have different cellular bases.
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I always wondered how they were able to indulge in milk and cheeses so easily.......
Gene Food consistency.
 

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Demetrius said:
Knowing this we can move on to discuss about how pheomelanin (Caucasian melanin) has sulfur at it's core. This is why white people are able to digest, diary and meat better than people of african descent because sulfur is an acid.

This is mostly nonsense. Certain Africans digest milk well...........

Convergent adaptation of human lactase persistence in Africa and Europe : Abstract : Nature Genetics

A SNP in the gene encoding lactase (LCT) (C/T-13910) is associated with the ability to digest milk as adults (lactase persistence) in Europeans, but the genetic basis of lactase persistence in Africans was previously unknown. We conducted a genotype-phenotype association study in 470 Tanzanians, Kenyans and Sudanese and identified three SNPs (G/C-14010, T/G-13915 and C/G-13907) that are associated with lactase persistence and that have derived alleles that significantly enhance transcription from the LCT promoter in vitro. These SNPs originated on different haplotype backgrounds from the European C/T-13910 SNP and from each other. Genotyping across a 3-Mb region demonstrated haplotype homozygosity extending >2.0 Mb on chromosomes carrying C-14010, consistent with a selective sweep over the past
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7,000 years. These data provide a marked example of convergent evolution due to strong selective pressure resulting from shared cultural traits—animal domestication and adult milk consumption.

It's basically a genetic mutation that occurred about 3,000 to 7,000 years ago. Has NOTHING to do with melanin or pheomelanin, but how long a civilization has subsisted primarily on unfermented milk products.

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This is mostly nonsense. Certain Africans digest milk well...........

Convergent adaptation of human lactase persistence in Africa and Europe : Abstract : Nature Genetics



It's basically a genetic mutation that occurred about 3,000 to 7,000 years ago. Has NOTHING to do with melanin or pheomelanin, but how long a civilization has subsisted primarily on unfermented milk products.

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:comeon:? It's fact. Majority of the People of african descent can't digest diary as well. I never said there were africans who can't digest dairy well.
According to the National Digestive Diseases Information Clearinghouse, some 30 million to 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant, including up to 75 percent of African Americans and American Indians and 90 percent of Asian Americans.
Lactose intolerance seems linked to ancestral struggles with harsh climate and cattle diseases, Cornell study finds | Cornell Chronicle
 
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:comeon:? It's fact. Majority of the People of african descent can't digest diary as well. I never said there were africans who can't digest dairy well.
According to the National Digestive Diseases Information Clearinghouse, some 30 million to 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant, including up to 75 percent of African Americans and American Indians and 90 percent of Asian Americans.
Lactose intolerance seems linked to ancestral struggles with harsh climate and cattle diseases, Cornell study finds | Cornell Chronicle

To answer your earlier question here is a link describing how humans a basically genetically homogeneous.
http://www.ashg.org/education/pdf/geneticvariation.pdf


To answer this post specifically, African Americans make up a fraction of those of african decent and not to mention Africa is the most biodiverse continent on the planet when it comes to human phenotypes. Meaning you can't use African american statistics to support ANY claims about ANYTHING genetic as it pertains to people of African decent.
The Distribution of Human Genetic Diversity: A Comparison of Mitochondrial, Autosomal, and Y-Chromosome Data

There's a study there which proves the genetic diversity of Africa (and also western asia).
 
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