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First.

The slave trade brought African slaves to the New World. The only major difference between Islanders, North Americans and South Americans is where the boat stopped off.

There's no functional difference between a Brazilian, American, or Jamaican Breh who's ancestors were enslaved.

All of us are encased in some European cultural schema. We want to feel like we are rebelling against colonialism, but our very speech and lifestyle is Europeanized (whether British, Spanish, or French).

The idea of conquering the colonialists is absurd. In the USA, us being 13% of the total population and not being in control of ANY significant military force, means that our "revolution" (read: violent uprising) would only result in our total destruction.

Please read Art of War, or watch a 7 min YouTube break down of it before you fix your fingers to argue that point.

All we could possibly do in this situation is to carve out our own little square within this crazy world. We will not rule the Earth.. yet.. but we CAN rule our little bubble (once we establish said bubble).

Think of the Honey Badger. Not King of the Jungle, but certainly king of his little territory. Even the KANG!!, the lion, even the lion give the honey badger six feet of personal space when they interact.

Cause Honey Badger is not playing. Not kidding around. Not playing the radio. Just pure thuggin it. At every opportunity.

All black people globally need to unite. But as a first step, all descendants of African slaves need to recognize our need to unite under that umbrella. Once we form New World Black Voltron, then we can link with African Voltron and Asiatic (Black folks in Eurasia) Voltron.

a community with any self worth and dignity is not trying to simply eke out an existence under the thumb of an oppressor. history is filled with examples of outgunned and outmanned minorities successfully revolting.

how are you in one breath going to tell us to read art of war, and in another say that 13% of the population is too small a number to effect radical change that overturns this social order?

did you even read art of war?

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Again this is wrong if you understand the creation story of the Alusi and of Eri you would understand why I’m saying it’s not possible for Igbos to be Jews. Only a very few portion of Igbo ppl subscribe to that Israelite nonsense and that’s only because of the Biafran civil war & colonization. A majority us don’t subscribe to this because it goes against and contradicts our traditional heritage (odinani and umenani)

How can it contradict your traditional heritage but Christianity and Catholicism which majority of Igbos subscribe to doesn’t?
 

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First.

The slave trade brought African slaves to the New World. The only major difference between Islanders, North Americans and South Americans is where the boat stopped off.

There's no functional difference between a Brazilian, American, or Jamaican Breh who's ancestors were enslaved.

All of us are encased in some European cultural schema. We want to feel like we are rebelling against colonialism, but our very speech and lifestyle is Europeanized (whether British, Spanish, or French).

The idea of conquering the colonialists is absurd. In the USA, us being 13% of the total population and not being in control of ANY significant military force, means that our "revolution" (read: violent uprising) would only result in our total destruction.

Please read Art of War, or watch a 7 min YouTube break down of it before you fix your fingers to argue that point.

All we could possibly do in this situation is to carve out our own little square within this crazy world. We will not rule the Earth.. yet.. but we CAN rule our little bubble (once we establish said bubble).

Think of the Honey Badger. Not King of the Jungle, but certainly king of his little territory. Even the KANG!!, the lion, even the lion give the honey badger six feet of personal space when they interact.

Cause Honey Badger is not playing. Not kidding around. Not playing the radio. Just pure thuggin it. At every opportunity.

All black people globally need to unite. But as a first step, all descendants of African slaves need to recognize our need to unite under that umbrella. Once we form New World Black Voltron, then we can link with African Voltron and Asiatic (Black folks in Eurasia) Voltron.
The average black person could care less about black empowerment. This will never happen.
 

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Again this is wrong if you understand the creation story of the Alusi and of Eri you would understand why I’m saying it’s not possible for Igbos to be Jews. Only a very few portion of Igbo ppl subscribe to that Israelite nonsense and that’s only because of the Biafran civil war & colonization. A majority us don’t subscribe to this because it goes against and contradicts our traditional heritage (odinani and umenani)
I always tell people I don’t think Igbos are Jews, we just interacted with them very early in history and took some game from them.

If you get a DNA test as an Igbo, chances are your DNA migration went through East Africa and the Levant.

Hell, my haplotype and the haplotype that a large portion of black men on earth carry e1b1a, is the same haplogroup found in Natufians (an ethnic group that was living in the levant before the Jews even came).
 
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Black Americans need to take over states and put competent Black politicians in office that care about our interests.
With what money? Politicians please those who put money in their pockets. We don’t largely contribute financially, and don’t have enough businesses that are contributing local tax revenue.
 

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I have a lot of thoughts too many to write down all day but I’ll say this.

Pan-Africanism is an entirely western thought idea that has very little basis in reality.

There are cultural, historical, Genetic and Geographic differences between “Black people” and even “Blackness” is an entirely western concept.

Most “Black People” don’t even view themselves as Black.

The Problem is Black Americans have a Self hate and Identity crisis because of our History in America not being fully embraced by Our Country and our fellow Statesmen, being oppressed and enslaved having to claw and scratch for anything that we have.

But not being Really African either and we’re stuck feeling as if we don’t have a culture or a connection to anywhere or anything so A lot of us try to cling to Africa so that you can take an Identity even if it isn’t really yours.

On top of the 500 years of Social conditioning making it so that Black=Inferior and White=Superior.

It’s hard to find a way forward especially when we really have no control over it it’s why I recommend to just focus on your families and people in your life you can impact.
 

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How can it contradict your traditional heritage but Christianity and Catholicism which majority of Igbos subscribe to doesn’t?
COLONIALISM

Literally if we weren’t colonized half these ideas wouldn’t be sprung to life
I always tell people I don’t think Igbos are Jews, we just interacted with them very early in history and took some game from them.

If you get a DNA test as an Igbo, chances are your DNA migration went through East Africa and the Levant.

Hell, my haplotype and the haplotype that a part portion of black men on earth carry e1b1a, is the same haplogroup found in Natufians (an ethnic group that was living in the levant before the Jews even came).
e1b1a are basically Egyptians, same as king Ramses

I want to get a DNA test but I don’t trust the nonsense going on with genetic testing

We also had interactions with the Chinese early too, you ever wonder why they “chi” and our “chi” have similar concepts
 
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Again this is wrong if you understand the creation story of the Alusi and of Eri you would understand why I’m saying it’s not possible for Igbos to be Jews. Only a very few portion of Igbo ppl subscribe to that Israelite nonsense and that’s only because of the Biafran civil war & colonization. A majority us don’t subscribe to this because it goes against and contradicts our traditional heritage (odinani and umenani)
You are wrong, see how easy that is to do? I’ll let the folks that done years of research speak
 

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You are wrong, see how easy that is to do? I’ll let the folks that done years of research speak
nikka I can’t speak and read my own language? There are texts that disprove this printed in Igbo stating our history. If not for Nigerias shoddy publication industry I would find an online copy for you right now

I can call every Igbo poster on the coli and they will all literally tell you you’re wrong, go and make a thread and tell me what happens when we all decide to pop out from the wood works to correct you.
 

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Man fukk all that decisive shyt if you believe in God you are apart of the chosen ones and that's what the BIBLE SAYS so all that other shyt can stfu
 

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nikka I can’t speak and read my own language? There are texts that disprove this printed in Igbo stating our history. If not for Nigerias shoddy publication industry I would find an online copy for you right now

I can call every Igbo poster on the coli and they will all literally tell you you’re wrong, go and make a thread and tell me what happens when we all decide to pop out from the wood works to correct you.
Did you not know your language is Paleo-Hebrew? Go get whoever you want. I keep dropping historical evidence, documents, books, videos, and maps to justify my historical claim. You ain’t provided nothing but “because i said so”
 
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i sometimes think the inevitable way to progress any sort of pan-Africanism/unity amongst the black diaspora is that 1-2 generation have to sacrifice and take the L for the long term gain

issue is every generation will push it off to the next, as most wont reap the benefits in their life time

its tough cuz people are gonna have to survive and look after their family/self-interests first ... hard to tell people not to immigrate for better opportunities when homeland is held back by corrupt leaders, internal warfare, etc ...

but the cycle continues as we migrate to the west (or elsewhere) for opportunities but in turn contribute to help build those societies instead

not to mention the issue of even getting the black diaspora to recognize each other as such, we all see the division amongst FBAs/Americans, continental Africans, Carribbeans and south Americans

but yes ideally, a black/african coalition that is actually functional and not corrupted is really the only means of achieving global black empowerment, its just the steps to get there isn't as straight forward as it should be
 

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Did you not know your language is Paleo-Hebrew? Go get whoever you want. I keep dropping historical evidence, documents, books, videos, and maps to justify my historical claim. You ain’t provided nothing but “because i said so”
No it’s we are not Semitic and share no similarities with other Semitic languages like Aramaic, Amharic, and Arabic. We also don’t follow their same writing system

Nsibidi looks nothing like Hebrew, Arabic, or ahmaric writing

We are in the Volta-Niger language category.

I’m going to drop a video that disproves this

My guy here has done the research everything he says will tell why you’re wrong

 

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No it’s we are not Semitic and share no similarities with other Semitic languages like Aramaic, Amharic, and Arabic. We also don’t follow their same writing system

Nsibidi looks nothing like Hebrew, Arabic, or ahmaric writing

We are in the Volta-Niger language category.

I’m going to drop a video that disproves this

My guy here has done the research everything he says will tell why you’re wrong


He got a lot of debunking to do because it’s everywhere.

It’s a possibility you are a Hamite that lived in the area with Shemites. As far as the Shemites this from there own mouth in your homeland
The work recorded about a thousand ancient Nigerian towns from across Nigeria that corresponds to the same ancient Israeli/Idumean towns recorded in the Bible. Interestingly, while most of the listed towns are located in the Southern and Middle Belt of Nigeria, a considerable number is also found in northern Nigeria,” he stressed.
^^^You need to go back to your homeland and find out why your people are saying this.
 
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