Where do you rank John Cena historically?

[puppetmaster]

Let's pretend Sunday was his last match and you have his body of work up until then to judge. Where does he fall on your all time list. Top 5? 10? 100?

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

What we using as a guideline? Because as its an all time list you will have variant of different criteria's.

Like list of best draws, but then how far do we go back?
Work wise how good was he?
What was his best run as a performer?
Overall impact, how many people has he put on, gotten over, what is his legacy?

The problem with all-time lists (this is in general no particular industry) people will often pick their own personal favourites to fill out a list then to think logically about it factoring in people's career , body of work and overall impact.

You got to remember alot of people aren't fans of Cena and because of that they will rate accordingly to their dislikes of him then to do it as a impartial rating.

I ask, because as someone who never liked Hoegan at all, you put him in the top 5-10 because he is the face of wrestling becoming a global phenomenon in the 80's and had 2 separate runs which revolutionized the business in 2 different decades. But in my personal Top 10, he isn't making it at all.

 

[FBGPlank]

hogan of this era without the

 

[Chrome2279]

Top 10

 

[puppetmaster]

What we using as a guideline? Because as its an all time list you will have variant of different criteria's.

Like list of best draws, but then how far do we go back?
Work wise how good was he?
What was his best run as a performer?
Overall impact, how many people has he put on, gotten over, what is his legacy?

The problem with all-time lists (this is in general no particular industry) people will often pick their own personal favourites to fill out a list then to think logically about it factoring in people's career , body of work and overall impact.

You got to remember alot of people aren't fans of Cena and because of that they will rate accordingly to their dislikes of him then to do it as a impartial rating.

No doubt. I was just opening the door to the convo in tsc

If you take match quality, promos, staying power, moments, draw etc

Damn near every great has at least one thing you can knock them for

Of course there's people who can't/won't separate their bias because of their dislike and that's cool.


I can put him top 25 without even thinking and can reason it out later if I had to. If I really sat down with it I might even be able to argue him higher.

He's gonna make for a fun debate for the objective

 

[Fenian]

Top 25/30 just off the impact he had. Will have to think where to put him in there but he's definitely not top 10.

 

[Riley Escobar]

Top 15, maybe even top 10 at a push

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Definitely not top 25

Here are people just off the top that I can think of that are better

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No order

Hoegan
Flair
Austin
Rock
Savage
Terry Funk
Misawa
Kobashi
Bret
Hansen
Bruno
Sting
Harley
Tanahashi
Andre
Baba
Inoki
Liger
Kawada
Muta
Dusty
Piper
Superstar
Bockwinkel
Jumbo

 

[richaveli83]

Top 20 definitely.

 

[Breh Obama]

When it comes to overall impact he's definitely top 5 of all time and there's absolutely no debating that at all.

 

[OVER]

I like to put him in the upper echelon of pro wrestlers but I've never put him in my personal favorites.

 

[boriquaking]

John is up there but WWE’s revisionist history has him ranked than he should be on most lists.

Top 10, but he has to thank Brock for that.

 

[Black Gatsby]

He's upper echelon 100%

Longevity, drawing, matches etc he ticks most boxes

 

[Yayo Toure]

Dominant in a weak era.

So he's on that Shawn Michaels level, minus the 5* matches. He's a superstar but not on the tier of Rock, Austin, Hogan.

 

[R=G]

Not in my top 50