When you look at dating in 2022 in America and Western Nations, whose fault do you think it is? The current generation or men or women only?

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Women. Everything about women's role in society has changed (education, occupation, etc) but they still yearn to hold on to some of the dating traditions of the past (men being providers, etc). It just isn't sustainable in the long run.
Women only do what men accept.

Men loose leverage being thirsty for sex
 

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Women will get most if not all of the blame but it's really a natural consequence of a modern society where women are less dependent on men than at any point in history. Even in South Korea and Japan, you have this phenomenon going on since they're the richest Asian countries.

Women in developed countries are pickier than ever because they're making their own money, buying their own homes, etc. now and they don't necessarily need men in their lives as much as they used to which makes them more willing to hold out for specific men who fit their preference. Hell, even with sex, a lot of women fall back on dildos and vibrators for orgasms. It puts men in developed countries in an unusual dilemma where we have to compete harder to get a lot of dating options.

I'm not saying that this is right or wrong but that's usually how it goes. Developing countries still are very money, tradition, and status focused like the older generation of dating so men are able to go there and leverage their average amount of money and possessions to appeal to women overseas and date/marry them.

But, before you know it, even some of those countries will become more developed and women will become picker there as well.

It begs the question thoguh: How can average men sell themselves to a high amount of women in the 1st world? It used to be that we could shame them for being broke without a man, childless without a man, have no sex without a man, etc. but those things don't hold up as much as they used to. A lot of women are cool with their sex toys, own money/possessions, and girl networks and consider dating men to be a bonus for better or worse.

The Red Pill might have the answers but that should be the ultimate question men in the West(and Japan/South Korea) must ask.
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I would also add social media to that
 

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Women- Crazy expectations

Men- Simping and not holding women accountable.

Dudes saying women are satisfied with dildos don't know what they talking about.
 

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It's like the NBA..

When players were running pick and roll, using two hand chest passes, etc the average final score was 110+

Now it is tomahawk dunks, 3 point bombs..
With final scores like 88-82

Maybe we need to lower the basket 6 inches to make it easier to put up numbers?? :flabbynsick:
 

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Women "boss bytches" are all miserable at 40+ and die alone.
Regular women are the majority and will get married.
So why are the majority of black women pushing strollers alone? I almost never see a married black woman.
 

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Idk I’m gonna blame the gays on this one. I’ve been recently smashing the late 90s 2000s girls and all of them be on some they/them I’m non-binary bullshyt. Like they don’t see a problem fukking a tranny or faq but don’t wanna claim pansexual but really just be fukking dudes but may just be attracted to others shyt is ass backwards
 

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Women will get most if not all of the blame but it's really a natural consequence of a modern society where women are less dependent on men than at any point in history. Even in South Korea and Japan, you have this phenomenon going on since they're the richest Asian countries.

Women in developed countries are pickier than ever because they're making their own money, buying their own homes, etc. now and they don't necessarily need men in their lives as much as they used to which makes them more willing to hold out for specific men who fit their preference. Hell, even with sex, a lot of women fall back on dildos and vibrators for orgasms. It puts men in developed countries in an unusual dilemma where we have to compete harder to get a lot of dating options.

I'm not saying that this is right or wrong but that's usually how it goes. Developing countries still are very money, tradition, and status focused like the older generation of dating so men are able to go there and leverage their average amount of money and possessions to appeal to women overseas and date/marry them.

But, before you know it, even some of those countries will become more developed and women will become picker there as well.

It begs the question thoguh: How can average men sell themselves to a high amount of women in the 1st world? It used to be that we could shame them for being broke without a man, childless without a man, have no sex without a man, etc. but those things don't hold up as much as they used to. A lot of women are cool with their sex toys, own money/possessions, and girl networks and consider dating men to be a bonus for better or worse.

The Red Pill might have the answers but that should be the ultimate question men in the West(and Japan/South Korea) must ask.
old but this has me thinking, feel like this turns women into very me-focused, selfish individuals, you might be able to afford a kid by yourself but a child needs it's mother and father. Might be the most glaring thing I see with IG hoes nowadays.
 
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