When you die what do you believe what happens?

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The consciousness is often a product of its environment. An "idea" or perception doesnt exist unless it is able to be percieved and understood by the subject through stimuli.

laymans example: the idea of being suicidal is incomprehensible by person Y. It cannot be comprehended by person Y because said person has lived a prosperous, joyful life. He cannot possibly understand why someone would attempt suicide. Therefore in person Y's mind, such feelings do not exist.

Unless person Y has been in person X's shoes, experienced every level and kind of stimuli person X has experienced throughout life up to this point, he cannot understand why person x has developed to this point. However, to person X suicide is a believable reality that has come to pass due to unfortunate circumstance.

Moving forward, Since our consciousness is under the influence of [this] reality. we often cannot understand nor perceive anything else. Because our tendancy is to submit to a physical reality, due to physical stimuli.

Now, with this being established. How can you say nothing exists outside a physical reality, when all you know is physical stimuli
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Except most religious/spiritual dogma presumes that we are "Spiritual beings living in a temporary physical body" and that our "souls are immortal".

Therefore, If our souls are immortal, they could not have been "created" at the moment of conception. The spiritual stimuli would have been created prior to coming into our physical form. At this point in our lives we all have already experienced the duality of life. Spiritual/non material existence and Physical existence.

Imagine existing in a spiritual form for what seems like infinity(since you spirit is immortal), and BLAM...you are in the physical...then BLAM you die and you are back in the spiritual form again. (On a timeline your existence in the physical would be a microscopic dot in comparison)

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Would the influence of the dot really override the influence of our infinite spiritual consciousness?
 

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Except most religious/spiritual dogma presumes that we are "Spiritual beings living in a temporary physical body" and that our "souls are immortal".

Therefore, If our souls are immortal, they could not have been "created" at the moment of conception. The spiritual stimuli would have been created prior to coming into our physical form. At this point in our lives we all have already experienced the duality of life. Spiritual/non material existence and Physical existence.

Imagine existing in a spiritual form for what seems like infinity(since you spirit is immortal), and BLAM...you are in the physical...then BLAM you die and you are back in the spiritual form again. (On a timeline your existence in the physical would be a microscopic dot in comparison)

White-paper-black-dot.jpg


Would the influence of the dot really override the influence of our infinite spiritual consciousness?

I understand where you're coming from, but let me explain something.


Jesus Christ taught that he was nothing of himself. It was the Spirit that quickened him. The soul, is to say, a consciousness. The spirit is a point of perception.

The Bible teaches after the fall of man, we were now spiritually dead, a empty "house" so to speak, open to any spiritual "visitor". As standing water breeds filth, and abandoned homes attract degenerates; Without the Spirit of a higher order, our souls are now left to perceive what volunteers itself/ is readily available. Which is, the flesh.

The physical (the earth), of itself only deteriorates. Deterioration, is death. The perception (spirit) that dominates within the average man, is of the physical. Therefore, spiritually dead.
 

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Didn't Einstein say he believed in the afterlife because of the whole idea of energy, and that it couldn't just stop, but be transferred so there had to be something after this?
 

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I truly believe after you die, everything ceases to exist for you. I kind of hope that to be true, honestly. I don't want to have to spend an eternity in some form of concsiousness.

Forever? That's a long time for anything, even absolute peace and tranquility. I don't think that me, being the person that I am, could even be truly 100% happy with that perfect heaven I was raised to believe in.

So I imagine it is like a dreamless sleep. That you never wake up from. Sounds peaceful.
 
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