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That his circumstances are unique.

Jay owning his masters only works because of how many albums he put out combined with how big of an artist he is. Had a normal artist went with ownership over the money the value would be peanuts in comparison. It's damn near if not flat out impossible for any artist to sell the way Jay did in the late 90s...including Jay himself in today's climate. Jay for as much money that he claimed to have had to get those Premier beats on discount through a special deal that wouldn't have been made with others...and that was his only big producer on RD.

Jay is a guy who couldn't get signed that had 2 partners to help him start a label. Good look finding a Dame and Bigges today. Jay also came in at a time where tv, radio, and magazines mattered. The machine has completely transformed and being from New York is a death sentence to your career now.

Jay's fortune largely comes from great timing, opportunity, and the right networking.

My point is Jay despite gaining as much money as he did didn't do it by being a great business mind. None of his individual business ventures worked that well. I got most of his fortune from factors out of his control that couldn't be predicted not by following some formula.

Stop making him out to be some all knowing financial guru.
 

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Most of people's successes in the world comes from " great timing, opportunity, and the right networking".
"Uhh if he ain't dont what he done, he won't be shyt" (I'm just paraphrasing btw). NO shyt, difference is he took his shot when it mattered, he risked it all and it paid off. Now get your hatin ass outta here :camby:
 

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Most of people's successes in the world comes from " great timing, opportunity, and the right networking".
"Uhh if he ain't dont what he done, he won't be shyt" (I'm just paraphrasing btw). NO shyt, difference is he took his shot when it mattered, he risked it all and it paid off. Now get your hatin ass outta here :camby:
I never hated on Jay.

I'm saying that everyone wants to act like Jay works for everyone else.

I'm saying what worked out great for Jay may not work for others.
 

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Oh shut the hell up Op. Jay z is an excellent business man, you don’t luck into a billion dollars (especially as a black man).
 

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Most of people's successes in the world comes from " great timing, opportunity, and the right networking".
"Uhh if he ain't dont what he done, he won't be shyt" (I'm just paraphrasing btw). NO shyt, difference is he took his shot when it mattered, he risked it all and it paid off. Now get your hatin ass outta here :camby:

this......man could be making a thread about trump, has less $$ than jay, who has no liquidity and is in the red but acts like a business mogul, and chooses to shyt a soon to be black billionaire..i cant cosign this thread

I am not even a jay z stan but the man is telling us to think outside the box, he got it and is not shyttin on people like todays generation and people still have negative stuff to say
 

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Ok he's worth almost a billion and he got there with no skill or talent.. He just fell into it by timing, people around him, and luck..
Never said that

I'm saying that talent is not a guarantee of money. And Jays trail can't be followed to the same success he had.
 

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Oh shut the hell up Op. Jay z is an excellent business man, you don’t luck into a billion dollars (especially as a black man).
You get helped into it gradually over time.

Many many people from Irv to Jaz to Dame to Bigges to Lyor to Bey to Ye helped him get to where he's at.

You are pretending that business acumen and talent alone did what networking and circumstance helped with.
 
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