When They See Us Official Thread

[lib123]

She retracted and apologized.

What has Trump said about that ?

By the way, a
I feel my heart racing on episode 1 and I already have a headache. Not watching rhis at all

Yeah, retracted and apologized to help her campaign. Not saying Trump is better. Just saying

 

[Pimp]

Got another one for the list!

@Deacon Frye

You gotta grow up kid. When someone doesn't agree on a black matter you guys get sensitive. You guys start saying "he must be white" I be laughing because I'm black and I believe the reason black people are still down is we play the victim role too much.. I think the parents failed them kids.

 

[BXKingPin82]

You gotta grow up kid. When someone doesn't agree on a black matter you guys get sensitive. You guys start saying "he must be white" I be laughing because I'm black and I believe the reason black people are still down is we play the victim role too much.. I think the parents failed them kids.

I dont even think it woulda matter my g.
Muthafukkas dont understand, these cop over here make shyt happen!!
Like someone else said, a black girl got raped and chucked off the roof when this shyt happen.
Aint nobody
Give
A
fukk!

 

[Pimp]

I dont even think it woulda matter my g.
Muthafukkas dont understand, these cop over here make shyt happen!!
Like someone else said, a black girl got raped and chucked off the roof when this shyt happen.
Aint nobody
Give
A
fukk!

I guess. Similar thing happened to me when I was 16. Got arrested for some shyt that was impossible for me to do because I was at school when it happened. I had to plead guilty because my lawyer said "I got the felony charge removed just plea to a misdemeanor and you'll just get probation no jail time" my dad made me plead because his job only covered 20 hours of lawyer fees. So I always blamed my parents for being broke.. My probation officer kept violating me so I ended up doing a year for some shyt I didn't even do. I made sure when I became an adult to always have lawyer money just in case..

I think the whole "you have a right to remain silent" speech should be explained clearly. They say it so fast that you don't pay attention to the fact that anything you say will be used against you in court. I don't even think it should be legal for a cop to question you without your parents being there until you're 18 years old.

 

[BXKingPin82]

I guess. Similar thing happened to me when I was 16. Got arrested for some shyt that was impossible for me to do because I was at school when it happened. I had to plead guilty because my lawyer said "I got the felony charge removed just plea to a misdemeanor and you'll just get probation no jail time" my dad made me plead because his job only covered 20 hours of lawyer fees. So I always blamed my parents for being broke.. My probation officer kept violating me so I ended up doing a year for some shyt I didn't even do. I made sure when I became an adult to always have lawyer money just in case..

I think the whole "you have a right to remain silent" speech should be explained clearly. They say it so fast that you don't pay attention to the fact that anything you say will be used against you in court. I don't even think it should be legal for a cop to question you without your parents being there until you're 18 years old.

Yeah. I dont know man.
I dont confess to shyt I aint do.
shyt, I dont confess to shyt I do.

 

[Ikwa]

This was hard to watch brohams

 

[C-NICE]

why isn't this stickied it's a damn good informative documentary I'm angry days after watching it especially growing up in the south ive seen some bs similar to this just not on a national scale

 

[Drew Wonder]

Series was very good but I don’t think I’ll ever watch it again, just a tough watch all around. Hopefully this will make more people realize how important criminal justice reform is.

Dude from Moonlight who played Kory Wise deserves an Emmy. He was the only actor to play kid and adult roles and that entire 4th episode was masterful acting. If you watch interviews with the real Kory he got his mannerisms down pat.

I know Ava’s rep was hurt with a Wrinkle in Time but this series solidified just how talented she is. This was really well done

 

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You gotta grow up kid. When someone doesn't agree on a black matter you guys get sensitive. You guys start saying "he must be white" I be laughing because I'm black and I believe the reason black people are still down is we play the victim role too much.. I think the parents failed them kids.

Haha you think it's because of that one post kid, its because of your post history! Enjoy the list!

 

[You Win Perfect]

You must be rich and white

I reported his post. He’s a cac pretending to be black

 

[You Win Perfect]

Had to pause it there

When will these white devils get theres

When black people get off the internet doin dumb shyt for attention

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Curious to see what other boards said about this series.

Duvernay has all of the subtlety of a jackhammer, which really starts to wear on you after eight hours. Despite the claims of some reactionaries, the Central Park Five were clearly railroaded. There was no physical evidence linking them to the scene, and their confessions were coerced. There's no way you should be able to admit the confession of a child after being held in police custody for nearly 24 hours without food, sleep, or water. Even if they were admissible, the confessions clearly contradict one another on nearly every point, and rarely match up to the physical evidence that did exist.

So even armed with a pretty good set of facts to work with, Duvarney continually stacks the deck. The kids pretty clearly were in the Park to commit petty crimes, and she handwaves away the assaults of several cyclists. Ironically, those other crimes are among the kids' better defenses, as it places them somewhere else at the time of the rape. They timeline doesn't really work and gives them an alibi. Sure, not the alibi they want, but still an alibi.

This is where the movie really fails to capture 1980s NYC. We were at the near peak of the crime wave, and it seemed like it was going to continue unabated. Central Park was incredibly dangerous after dark, and the show sort of blows past the crime statistics and the rapes in that area. It was horrific, and that's why there was a task force in the first place. 80s NYC was a place in which Bernie Goetz could shoot kids on the subway and not only get away with it, but be lauded as a civic hero. The director takes no time to set up that world, or impart just how tense things were at the time. After 25 years of crime steadily going down, we've developed cultural amnesia on how truly bad crime was in the 70s and 80s.

This leads to the failure of her portrayal of the cops. Did they coerce confessions? Absolutely. But why did they do it? Not because they were cartoonishly evil, but because they genuinely believed the kids did it, so they constructed the evidence needed to convict (which, ya know, was not uncommon).

Linda Fairstein was a hero to many because she was an uncompromising champion of women and children victims of sex crimes. She wasn't motivated by racism, but of her liberal support of women's rights. She was a crusader for rape victims, and she tossed every roadblock out of the way in order to pursue what she felt was right, showing pretty much why we shouldn't have crusaders but dispassionate investigators. There's a lesson there today for people who would discard Constitutional protections aside in order to advance an agenda they feel is right. The ends do not justify the means, and in fact, lousy means usually end up with the wrong ends.

There's a compelling, complicated story to tell, but one that Duvernay is completely uninterested in telling. And there is some value in focusing on the kids and making them the protagonists. It shifts perspective, and that's a good move... but it doesn't have to come at the expense of trampling everyone else's point of view.

Just like the initial prosecutors of this case, Duvernay puts her thumb on the scale in order to get the conclusion she is sure is correct. She does a better job of illustrating how their biases blinded them to any facts that didn't fit the narrative they constructed than she thinks. She commits the same sin, and for the same reason: to pursue what she believes is a greater moral truth.

 

[You Win Perfect]

And still has the gall to live in the Upper West Side not far from where all this happened

Shout out to Korey Wise for using that bread to help other innocent black folks.

Literally any of us could have been him, wrong place wrong time.

It’s never the right place right time when white supremacy exists. It can still be any of us

 

[23Barrettcity]

I reported his post. He’s a cac pretending to be black

Shut the fukk up you racist cac fukk you

 

[Pimp]

I reported his post. He’s a cac pretending to be black

You retard. I be on ps4 with all these guys.. They can clearly tell I'm black off top. You fagot ass nikka I'll beat the shyt out of you if you're in the NY/NJ area you bytch.