When I see Deontay Wilder, it's on sight. Imma slap him- Dillian Whyte

[reservoirdogs]

Wilder KO in 1

You make it sound like dude would be on the level of the likes of Breazeale or washed up Stiverne, the only 2 opponents Wilder stopped in the first round as a champion.
Nah, your emotions talking now, Whyte is a solid top 5 HW if he's in shape, he beat Parker which is a better win than any of Ortiz's or any of Povetkin's lately. I'm not saying he beats the top guys, as you have read but just because you hate the man doesn't mean he's some low-level scrub. If he's in a similar shape as on his last fight he might as well gets KOd early, not the in shape version though.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

You make it sound like dude would be on the level of the likes of Breazeale or washed up Stiverne, the only 2 opponents Wilder stopped in the first round as a champion.
Nah, your emotions talking now, Whyte is a solid top 5 HW if he's in shape, he beat Parker which is a better win than any of Ortiz's or any of Povetkin's lately. I'm not saying he beats the top guys, as you have read but just because you hate the man doesn't mean he's some low-level scrub. If he's in a similar shape as on his last fight he might as well gets KOd early, not the in shape version though.

He getting slept easy, any version of him

 

[The Ruler 09]

Wilder got knocked out by Romanov and in the pros knocked down against Sconiers and Nichols, he's been buzzed in other fights too. Where does this idea he has some kind of invincible chin come from or that he can't be hurt?

I think everyone would agree Wilder can hurt anybody and could potentially knock them out but it's not just about that is it? It's about what's coming back also. Wilder can be hurt or knocked out too, Russo dominated him also in their fight, he was getting hit the whole fight, Way to beat Wilder is negate his strengths and exploit his weaknesses.

I have no doubt Wilder can hurt or KO Whyte but Whyte can also hurt him, I remember when Whyte fought AJ Wilder picked Whyte to win, there seems to be something about Whyte Wilder wants no parts of for some reason, the more I look in hindsight it seems they try to avoid matching Wilder with anybody that can punch that can hurt him unless he has huge advantages over them.

 

[reservoirdogs]

He getting slept easy, any version of him

Right, forgot that big shots like Szpilka, Duhaupas, Molina or Arreola can go rounds and rounds against Wilder before capitulating, but not Whyte.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Right, forgot that big shots like Szpilka, Duhaupas, Molina or Arreola can go rounds and rounds against Wilder before capitulating, but not Whyte.

Yesterday was so long ago

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Wilder got knocked out by Romanov and in the pros knocked down against Sconiers and Nichols, he's been buzzed in other fights too. Where does this idea he has some kind of invincible chin come from or that he can't be hurt?

I think everyone would agree Wilder can hurt anybody and could potentially knock them out but it's not just about that is it? It's about what's coming back also. Wilder can be hurt or knocked out too, Russo dominated him also in their fight, he was getting hit the whole fight, Way to beat Wilder is negate his strengths and exploit his weaknesses.

I have no doubt Wilder can hurt or KO Whyte but Whyte can also hurt him, I remember when Whyte fought AJ Wilder picked Whyte to win, there seems to be something about Whyte Wilder wants no parts of for some reason, the more I look in hindsight it seems they try to avoid matching Wilder with anybody that can punch that can hurt him unless he has huge advantages over them.

Lmao

 

[The Ruler 09]

Lmao

What?

 

[reservoirdogs]

Wilder got knocked out by Romanov and in the pros knocked down against Sconiers and Nichols, he's been buzzed in other fights too. Where does this idea he has some kind of invincible chin come from or that he can't be hurt?

I think everyone would agree Wilder can hurt anybody and could potentially knock them out but it's not just about that is it? It's about what's coming back also. Wilder can be hurt or knocked out too, Russo dominated him also in their fight, he was getting hit the whole fight, Way to beat Wilder is negate his strengths and exploit his weaknesses.

I have no doubt Wilder can hurt or KO Whyte but Whyte can also hurt him, I remember when Whyte fought AJ Wilder picked Whyte to win, there seems to be something about Whyte Wilder wants no parts of for some reason, the more I look in hindsight it seems they try to avoid matching Wilder with anybody that can punch that can hurt him unless he has huge advantages over them.

I agree with the first part, disagree with the second part though.
It's complex I don't think Wilder would be scared of Whyte it's more because of politics. Whyte didn't take that final eliminator with Ortiz either tbf but also the WBC kinda just made that up on the spot so they didn't have to order Wilder vs Whyte.

Essentially they wanted to use Ortiz as Wilder's policeman. Not because Whyte would be the biggest danger to Wilder (though a credible challenger) but because they are friends with Haymon and they wanted to favor Haymon. They knew if they'd order that fight, Hearn and DAZN would likely win it and then Haymon would be mad at them for making his draw fight on the rival's network. You can see they had no problem whatsoever ordering Breazeale, another PBC fighter as Wilder's mandatory.

Every organization is friends with different promoters, except the IBF who are generally unbiased. If you want to see why they ordered specific fights and why they refused to order some others, just look at who they wanted to favor with their decisions at the time and you will see "who pays them".

It's something like this:
WBA - Hearn, Haymon
WBC - Haymon, Oscar
WBO - Arum, Warren

I can see AJ vs Fury happening somehow if Fury beats Wilder, AJ vs Wilder not really. Arum talks shyt at each of his rivals in the media let that be Hearn or Haymon but he can actually work together with them time to time. Hearn and Haymon don't have a working relationship like that now. If Wilder beats Fury we won't see AJ vs Wilder imo.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Right, forgot that big shots like Szpilka, Duhaupas, Molina or Arreola can go rounds and rounds against Wilder before capitulating, but not Whyte.

Different fighter, if y’all haven’t seen the improvement I don’t know what y’all have been watching. Whyte and Joshua should have fought 16-17 version of Wilder. He was way less refined and much more reckless. He as also in worst conditioning. I think if he comes out to hurt Whyte he will. We’ve seen Whyte go down or get hurt his last 5 fights. Minus Wach who was able to do real damage on him.

 

[Bigblackted4]

I agree with the first part, disagree with the second part though.
It's complex I don't think Wilder would be scared of Whyte it's more because of politics. Whyte didn't take that final eliminator with Ortiz either tbf but also the WBC kinda just made that up on the spot so they didn't have to order Wilder vs Whyte.

Essentially they wanted to use Ortiz as Wilder's policeman. Not because Whyte would be the biggest danger to Wilder (though a credible challenger) but because they are friends with Haymon and they wanted to favor Haymon. They knew if they'd order that fight, Hearn and DAZN would likely win it and then Haymon would be mad at them for making his draw fight on the rival's network. You can see they had no problem whatsoever ordering Breazeale, another PBC fighter as Wilder's mandatory.

Every organization is friends with different promoters, except the IBF who are generally unbiased. If you want to see why they ordered specific fights and why they refused to order some others, just look at who they wanted to favor with their decisions at the time and you will see "who pays them".

It's something like this:
WBA - Hearn, Haymon
WBC - Haymon, Oscar
WBO - Arum, Warren

I can see AJ vs Fury happening somehow if Fury beats Wilder, AJ vs Wilder not really. Arum talks shyt at each of his rivals in the media let that be Hearn or Haymon but he can actually work together with them time to time. Hearn and Haymon don't have a working relationship like that now. If Wilder beats Fury we won't see AJ vs Wilder imo.

And Hearn wants to use Whyte as AJ policemen

 

[The Ruler 09]

I agree with the first part, disagree with the second part though.
It's complex I don't think Wilder would be scared of Whyte it's more because of politics. Whyte didn't take that final eliminator with Ortiz either tbf but also the WBC kinda just made that up on the spot so they didn't have to order Wilder vs Whyte.

Essentially they wanted to use Ortiz as Wilder's policeman. Not because Whyte would be the biggest danger to Wilder (though a credible challenger) but because they are friends with Haymon and they wanted to favor Haymon. They knew if they'd order that fight, Hearn and DAZN would likely win it and then Haymon would be mad at them for making his draw fight on the rival's network. You can see they had no problem whatsoever ordering Breazeale, another PBC fighter as Wilder's mandatory.

Every organization is friends with different promoters, except the IBF who are generally unbiased. If you want to see why they ordered specific fights and why they refused to order some others, just look at who they wanted to favor with their decisions at the time and you will see "who pays them".

It's something like this:
WBA - Hearn, Haymon
WBC - Haymon, Oscar
WBO - Arum, Warren

I can see AJ vs Fury happening somehow if Fury beats Wilder, AJ vs Wilder not really. Arum talks shyt at each of his rivals in the media let that be Hearn or Haymon but he can actually work together with them time to time. Hearn and Haymon don't have a working relationship like that now. If Wilder beats Fury we won't see AJ vs Wilder imo.

I think they are scared to match him against punchers. I think there’s fear there, have seen Wilder say he’s scared to get knocked out and also he’s promised his kids they wouldn’t see him get knocked out. He’s been knocked out before so maybe that’s where the fear comes from, I think he tries to minimise the risks by cherry picking opponents. I think the politics plays a role for sure but I think they are also trying to match him a certain way which the history would indicate.

Whyte has offered to fight Ortiz twice which Ortiz turned down. He’s been the number 1 for so long so should have got his shot ages ago. From what I’ve heard Whyte’s team were told Wilder don’t want the fight, this could be part of the reason WBC have done their upmost to protect him and delay that fight for as long as possible. Wilder at the time got offered career high money for the Whyte fight which he turned down.

Similar to what you said if the fight were to happen I’d pick Wilder as favourite to win, maybe 65 to 35 favourite. Whyte would have a chance if he’s in shape but Wilder would still be favourite. Wilder shouldn’t fear Whyte but I think he wants things to be so lopsided in his favour that he has very little chance of losing like fighting people the level of Breazeale or DinosOrtiz who probably was sparring with Jack Johnson he’s that old lol. Not to mention his health issues.

I think there’s some credence to what you’re saying, I think WBC are bias to them, I think it’s a mixture of reasons not just a singular one.

Think the last point has some validity too, Wilder clearly doesn’t want to fight AJ, if you reject 120 mil deal it’s almost like saying no matter how much money is there he don’t want it. Fury I think would be more likely to fight AJ cause he cares more about the money and his history shows he will occasionally take a risk too.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

These clowns KNOW Wilder ain't scared of that bum. They just create false narratives to hate on the king. It's pathetic.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Just had a skim through the thread, can't believe the craziness read on here sometimes. Rivas only got made final eliminator after the fight was made. He didn't even have to fight Rivas, he could have waited it out like others have done. It was only in the days prior to the fight it was confirmed it would be for the mandatory.

Look if we look at Whyte's history we see he isn't a ducking type of fighter, he's fought AJ who Wilder and Fury refused to fight, Wilder in particular as we know, he fought Parker who was a former world champion, he fought Chisora the 2nd time after a hugely tough first fight with him and Chisora was in career best shape for that 2nd fight, he fought Rivas who was undefeated and actually very good, no old man shyt, a fighter in their prime coming off a good win, he also has offered Wilder the fight and he was willing to fight Fury.

Whyte isn't technically the best fighter, he's improved though still has flaws but 1 thing you can never say about him is that he ducks anybody, he's been willing to fight absolutely everybody in the division, even Ortiz who haters cite he's factually offered the fight to twice, on both occasions Ortiz turned it down.

Ultimately the fighters willing to fight everybody are the ones I respect win, lose or draw, the duckers, dodgers and cherry pickers not so much. There's no shame in losing if you try your best, but is shameful to not even try and avoid fighters while claiming you're the man.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Whyte wants no parts of Ortiz, neither do them other nikkas that call him old. He was signed to Eddie. They never let him touch their top brass. China chin Joshua shook too. Never seen a champ that brolic that big, shook of nikkas.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Whyte wants no parts of Ortiz, neither do them other nikkas that call him old. He was signed to Eddie. They never let him touch their top brass. China chin Joshua shook too. Never seen a champ that brolic that big, shook of nikkas.

Whyte wanted that Ortiz fight when Ortiz was signed to Matchroom, Ortiz didn't want it and fought Dave Allen instead.

How can Joshua have a China chin but not Wilder? When Wilder got knocked out by Romanov? Got knocked down by Sconiers and Nichols too? Who are much lesser opponents than the ones we know dropped Joshua in Ruiz, Whyte and Wlad.