When did liberals become so hawkishly pro war and genocide. I swear it wasn't only leftist and hippies opposing the vietnam war in the 60's

[badboys11]

America hasn't been threatened by war in close to 100 years, and haven't faced a serious existential threat to it's existence since the civil war. People have grown fat happy and complacent. Those people dying are in a foreign country so at the end of the day their lives don't matter. If people have to die so Americans can continue having the latest iPhone and Mercedes truck, then those people are gonna just have to die cause no one in America is gonna give up their consumerism for humanitys greater good. Ain't happening

And these "liberal" politicians have their money invested in the same companies the conservatives do. They share stock tips. We go to war when it's in the interest of politicians pocketbooks to do so, Republican/Democrat is for the public they all getting rich behind closed doors, and if it ain't the politician himself getting rich, look at they family and who's being gifted government contracts. This is why the Biden administration could care less about palenstine, Israel finances the political campaigns in this country and our leaders are beholden to them.



U can't keep electing crooked politicians over a 50 year period and expect them to act with morals. Kids getting butchered inside a school and the cops scared to go in? Nothing happens to the uvalde police, cause their is no money in stopping school shootings. Lot of money to be made behind fear. Who owns the bus companies shipping migrants to Chicago and NYC? The bus company owners getting rich, who are they connected to politically?

And when you an old man in the hospital, u liable to get killed by a crooked hospital employee interested in harvesting organs. Very lucrative business. In America, the power of the dollar is greater than the power of a human life. Humans can be replaced, money is power.

 

[Damnshow]

Exactly

China has more smoke for its own people then any aggressors

From Ghangus Khan to South Sudan they’ve folded.

And they’re gonna fold when it comes to Taiwan.

Oh China will fold, we don't know when. But when that happens, all the companys that work with china better have a backup plan. Cause a giant like that will throw a tantrum when it knows it's over for them.


China's one of big problems is they have for too many different cultures and languages. In America there is one English language. In china a northerner would struggle speaking to a southerner. Most of them never traveled to the other side of their country. It's not a one cohesive unit to mobilize for a massive war no matter how much money china puts into the industry.

 

[Roger king]

You cant group all this ''wars'' into one to fit a narrative or agenda, the russian war was caused by putin no one forced him to attack ukraine and murder innocent civilians because of his emperor conquest thirst. Russia should be thoroughly defeated and putin shown to be the pariah he is

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Establishment members of both parties have always been pro-war, it's a natural side effect of addiction to power. Obama ran on Iraq being a mistake and then helped invade Libya. Clinton was bombing shyt on three different continents. JFK and LBJ were responsible for massively escalating the Vietnam War. Truman didn't even think twice about dropping nukes - he wanted to use them the moment he found out we had them, whether they were necessary or not. Woodrow Wilson invaded a ton of different countries in Latin America.

The kind of people who refuse to treat killing others as just another tool are also the kind who rarely ascend to power in a nation like ours.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

You cant group all this ''wars'' into one to fit a narrative or agenda, the russian war was caused by putin no one forced him to attack ukraine and murder innocent civilians because of his emperor conquest thirst. Russia should be thoroughly defeated and putin shown to be the pariah he is

This ignores our interference in Ukranian elections and the Minsk Accords. It's never right to invade a country but when we do it we have "reasons". We don't afford other countries the same.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Liberal Democracy has outlived monarchy, fascism and communism for a reason

Anybody suggesting otherwise is a delusional bozo, and the veil has been dropped that pacifism bullshyt is a joke. You can’t placate aggressors nor should you, otherwise you end up with Russia

Anybody who thinks only America is a ‘warmonger’ is as flat out idiot

We're just the biggest war mongers. Biggest military, most military basis throughout the
world, involved in the most conflicts. So go big or go home I guess? lol
Being the biggest bullies may work for awhile but everyone even our current allies are going to hate us eventually. Even the citizens are starting to hate their own county's policies. Nothing lasts forever.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

We're just the biggest war mongers. Biggest military, most military basis throughout the
world, involved in the most conflicts. So go big or go home I guess? lol
Being the biggest bullies may work for awhile but everyone even our current allies are going to hate us eventually. Even the citizens are starting to hate their own county's policies. Nothing lasts forever.

American allies benefit from our own military prowess. And the Average American doesn’t know their ass from their elbow

 

[AnonymityX1000]

American allies benefit from our own military prowess. And the Average American doesn’t know their ass from their elbow

Not all the time. I'm sure Germany didn't like their pipeline being destroyed. And yeah, that's on purpose so powerful elitists can do their evil unopposed. We invest way more in military equipment than education.

 

[Damnshow]

Not all the time. I'm sure Germany didn't like their pipeline being destroyed. And yeah, that's on purpose so powerful elitists can do their evil unopposed. We invest way more in military equipment than education.

And Europe now is in great war danger because they didn't invest shyt into their military. The two strongest military powers in Europe, outside of English speaking nations, are Poland and Turkey. One is ran by dictator, the other was ran by right wingers who wanted to ban abortions and shyt. Which is alarming because a country like Turkey isn't really that much interested in protecting western Europe, in case something happens. They are living in their Ottoman Empire fantasies trying to impact middle east and central Asia.

If western Europe weren't lazy fukks with their military, the US wouldn't have to invest so much into military equipment.

And Germany should worry about their own country rather than criticizing America. They invited so many illegal immigrants that entire Eastern Germany is about to vote for a nazi-like far right wing political party.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

And Europe now is in great war danger because they didn't invest shyt into their military.

Who is putting Europe in danger? You think Putin is going to move on to Germany next after his utter failure in Ukraine?

If western Europe weren't lazy fukks with their military, the US wouldn't have to invest so much into military equipment.

The current level of American military spending has absolutely nothing to do with actual needs. We literally outspend the next 10 largest militaries combined.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

And Europe now is in great war danger because they didn't invest shyt into their military. The two strongest military powers in Europe, outside of English speaking nations, are Poland and Turkey. One is ran by dictator, the other was ran by right wingers who wanted to ban abortions and shyt. Which is alarming because a country like Turkey isn't really that much interested in protecting western Europe, in case something happens. They are living in their Ottoman Empire fantasies trying to impact middle east and central Asia.

If western Europe weren't lazy fukks with their military, the US wouldn't have to invest so much into military equipment.

And Germany should worry about their own country rather than criticizing America. They invited so many illegal immigrants that entire Eastern Germany is about to vote for a nazi-like far right wing political party.

Germany shouldn't be mad about Nord Stream and just, "worry about their own country"? What kind of logic is that?
So you're saying Europe controls American military spending? Doesn't sound like a great spot for us.

 

[Fillerguy]

The right had sent 30+ demonizing lef wing politics. By the time Clinton came around, Dems decided to adopt right wing Hawkishness to win elections....and it worked. It why the modern Democrat party is centre left...while the GOP has moved even further to the Right.

People look at twitter and online sm and think those Leftist represent the Liberal party......they don't. Leftist have almost zero representation in America politics. The most prominent Leftist are Bernie and/or AOC. Berine is a loser and AOC was deemed a commie before she even won an election. Obama was called a commie too but he's was more of Right winger than Biden is.

So now the average American believes leftist= liberal. Thats like saying football fans are tailgaters.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Liberals aren't pro or anti-war by nature. They follow the interests of their empire. If that means waging war, then war it is.

 

[Damnshow]

Germany shouldn't be mad about Nord Stream and just, "worry about their own country"? What kind of logic is that?
So you're saying Europe controls American military spending? Doesn't sound like a great spot for us.

First of all nord stream gave russians billions of euros that went to russian military complex. They had 30 years to come up with a plan how to be less energy dependable on russians and did nothing. Germany is one of the reasons why Europe has become weaker: 1) Incredibly weak german military that no one is afraid of 2) Countless of businesses with russians 3) Merkel's immigration policy welcoming far too many illegals for Europe to handle, which made a lot of Europeans go far-right wing and now more than a few countries in Europe have their own mini-Trump.


You said some of Euros would turn their back on USA. I am saying that is not happening when US excessive military spending is one of the reasons some of Europeans can live safer. Should US spend less on military? Sure. And Euro's better start doing something with their military. Cause if something ever happens in South China Sea.....the US military doesn't have enough to protect both Europe and go to massive war near China.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

First of all nord stream gave russians billions of euros that went to russian military complex. They had 30 years to come up with a plan how to be less energy dependable on russians and did nothing. Germany is one of the reasons why Europe has become weaker: 1) Incredibly weak german military that no one is afraid of 2) Countless of businesses with russians 3) Merkel's over-excessive immigration policy which made a lot of Europeans go far-right wing and now more than a few countries in Europe have their own mini-Trump.


You said some of Euros would turn their back on USA. I am saying that is not happening when US excessive military spending is one of the reasons some of Europeans can live safer. Should US spend less on military? Sure. And Euro's better start doing something with their military. Cause if something ever happens in South China Sea.....the US military doesn't have enough to protect both Europe and go to massive war near China.

I'm all for spending less and protecting other countries less European or not. Is America tho?
All I was saying is Germany is our ally, they built a pipeline with Russia and we destroyed it. Thus, hurting an ally. Why did they have to become " less energy dependable on russians"? Because we said so? I guess they aren't the allies we hoped they would be but the relationship has to continue nonetheless. Doesn't sound like a healthy relationship.