When did it become an issue with Black Actors playing Black Women?

[Chelsea Bridge]

Those same black folks watched Mammie and gone with the wind without an issue and related to the cowboys instead of the Indians on tv shows. They have or had zero room to come at flip for that shyt

How in the world would you know that they were the same ones? You were in every black household?

 

[Rell84shots]

When it became too common instead of a rarity.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Black men in dresses were the hazing ritual for cacs to make a example of what they failed to do with Denzel and em

Was watching Amen last night and Deacon Frye and Ruben were dressed to the tee like bytches. Even waxed the legs

90s and beyond:

• Black men dressed like women
• Black men having gay tendencies
• Black gay men
• Black goofy nerdy coli brehs
• Black man with a pawg
• Black man loses black wife to cancer or some shyt
• Black man playing second fiddle to white counterpart
• Black man being used as a political statement than being a fukking actor

That's why I applaud dudes like Laurenz Tate and ole boy that played in The Wire (the barksdale that got killed),

They stood on business and treated Holly weird like a clock in and clock out.

 

[tuckgod]

Its always been taboo in the FBA community.

Jews finding lowdown nikkas to make us look stupid has never been an issue for them.

 

[Rell84shots]

When Dave Chapelle said they tried to make him wear a dress and he refused. Suddenly refusing became a powerful stance,and accepting meant you gave into the white mans demands


Im not mad at it,it was perfect timing because it was being overdone. Although i dont think it was some cac conspiracy either to make black men wear dresses. Now the gay agenda is a whole different ball game.

What was the ratio of white men wearing dresses to black men? How many black men were put in dresses while they had ordinary cacs playing everyday heroes in movies & tv?

Am I the only one who feels that in modern times the concept of "c00ns" was dead for years until the 2010s? I don't recall hearing anyone ever being called a c00n prior to like 2013. Yeah c00ns existed during the civil rights era but you didn't hear of them for decades until the 2010s.



Were ppl throwing around the word c00n on SOHH in the 2000s? Were any Black celebrities considered c00ns in the 90s in real time?

Although Hammer was unfairly labeled a c00n, and black celebrities have done a million times worse now and don't get that label. All Hammer did was do a Popeyes commercial and that apparently was enough to cancel out all the good he did for his neighborhood.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

What was the ratio of white men wearing dresses to black men? How many black men were put in dresses while they had ordinary cacs playing everyday heroes in movies & tv?

Although Hammer was unfairly labeled a c00n, and black celebrities have done a million times worse now and don't get that label. All Hammer did was do a Popeyes commercial and that apparently was enough to cancel out all the good he did for his neighborhood.

The Hammer argument still goes on to this very day concerning black entertainers. Here you have a brother that went dead broke putting his folks on, giving jobs, and giving back to the community, yet he will be looked at as a "c00n".

Nevermind him standing on principle when cacs tried to play him (3rd Bass). Let's focus on the stigma that he wasn't "hip hop" and nevermind the fact that his album went diamond for the time.

That alone is a win in my book and black excellence.

 

[Rell84shots]

The Hammer argument still goes on to this very day concerning black entertainers. Here you have a brother that went dead broke putting his folks on, giving jobs, and giving back to the community, yet he will be looked at as a "c00n".

Nevermind him standing on principle when cacs tried to play him (3rd Bass). Let's focus on the stigma that he wasn't "hip hop" and nevermind the fact that his album went diamond for the time.

That alone is a win in my book and black excellence.

The irony of people complaining about rap being destructive to our community, while some of these same people ran Hammer & Kid N Play out of the game because they were "corny". The only fights they caused was some serious dance battles

 

[Vandelay]

I didn't forget that, it just has nothing to do with him exposing the trend.

Unfortunately you're too remedial for this kind of discussion.

I was about to say, I wasn't coming at you, people cite Dave's critique on this and not only forget he dressed up as a woman too, but he could be considered a hypocrite for what had to be his thought process if he accepted this only to talk bad about it at a later date.

It's overused, but you honestly legitimately can find as many white people doing crossdressing roles as black people.

There is however another emasculated role that black people seemingly disproportionately take on compared to other races though.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

It became Taboo when Geraldine came out

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Am I the only one who feels that in modern times the concept of "c00ns" was dead for years until the 2010s? I don't recall hearing anyone ever being called a c00n prior to like 2013. Yeah c00ns existed during the civil rights era but you didn't hear of them for decades until the 2010s.



Were ppl throwing around the word c00n on SOHH in the 2000s? Were any Black celebrities considered c00ns in the 90s in real time?

By the time he got to Willennium, Gen X was calling Will Smith a sell out because he made "music for white people ". Really he was just making clean music without cursing

People were also calling Bill Cosby a sellout around 2005 because of that pound cake speech

 

[Still Benefited]

What was the ratio of white men wearing dresses to black men? How many black men were put in dresses while they had ordinary cacs playing everyday heroes in movies & tv?

Although Hammer was unfairly labeled a c00n, and black celebrities have done a million times worse now and don't get that label. All Hammer did was do a Popeyes commercial and that apparently was enough to cancel out all the good he did for his neighborhood.

So even if the black men were on black shows or movies ran by black people. Or they came out and said it was there idea. We are still going to run with the narrative that white men FORCED these black men to do it?


Its one thing to voice your opinion to these brothas that you think its ill advised and why. But people painting the narrative that these men sold out,bent over,bent a knee for success is gross. Whats the ratio of black mens whos integrity we seek to destory and dismantle as a people?



Plus the whole schtick and reason it was seen as comical is the juxtapisition of a masculine/macho man wearing a dress. Which is why you saw guys like Arnold,Stallone,Swayze,Bruce Willis do it as bits. Black men are seen as hypermasculine without saving the world and jumping out of planes. Which is why the bit was often done by us.


But clearly its mostly done by comedians doing bits and playing funny characters. They be having these white boys do serious gay roles in Hollywood. Ask Tom Holland aka Spiderman. These is jokes,those gay roles are not. These bits had their time,they became outdated and hackish,end of story. Show the ratio of serious black actors taking on serious gay roles. Right now yall got comedy bits/sketches

 

[Still Benefited]

The Hammer argument still goes on to this very day concerning black entertainers. Here you have a brother that went dead broke putting his folks on, giving jobs, and giving back to the community, yet he will be looked at as a "c00n".

Nevermind him standing on principle when cacs tried to play him (3rd Bass). Let's focus on the stigma that he wasn't "hip hop" and nevermind the fact that his album went diamond for the time.

That alone is a win in my book and black excellence.

I dont think Hammer was seen as a c00n or is seen as a c00n. He was seen as a sellout. Close to the same thing,but not in the context of his time. He was just viewed as the safe unproblematic black man who the European placed above other more outspoken black people(other rappers). I think black people generally have a positive view of Hammer. Hes used more as the example of a black man who put his people on and got abandoned/went broke.

 

[frush11]

Told you. We not traditionally with the weirdo shyt. Conservative is not just a political designation.

"Somethin' about a conservative, regular girl that still can beat a bytch ass."

Please a lot of the social conservative jargon in Black Anglo world comes from the Protestant nonsense that got shoved down our ancestors throats(pause, no freaky)

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Growing up, it was never an issue with Jamie playing Wanda or Martin playing Sheneneh. Even Tyler Perry playing Madea was extremely popular in our community for a long time. When did the perception on this change?

People are tried the of fyckery and the ongoing images. People did have an issue with it in the past as well.

 

[ThatTruth777]

I remember people saying stuff about Martin and that chick he would play at times. I think social media just made those voices louder though because nobody cared that heavy at the time