What's your educational attainment level?

What's your educational attainment level?


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I believe college gives certain people a false sense of security, and probably does more harm than good. You can get through those college courses with average intelligence, but when these mediocre students get out in the job market they can't thrive.
That's on them. You have to take control of your education just like you have to take control of your career. You have to be your own biggest advocate.
 

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That's on them. You have to take control of your education just like you have to take control of your career. You have to be your own biggest advocate.

Everyone should be held accountable for their actions, but a lot of these kids are suffering major set backs because they are not realistic. College is not for everybody, but a lot of people are going that route because they see it as easy way out.
 

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Everyone should be held accountable for their actions, but a lot of these kids are suffering major set backs because they are not realistic. College is not for everybody, but a lot of people are going that route because they see it as easy way out.
Well part of it is because guidance counselors are terrible. That and schools are not transparent. I feel for them.
 

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Well part of it is because guidance counselors are terrible. That and schools are not transparent. I feel for them.

I don't feel for them. I find a lot of those guys after graduation work retail or in the service industry @ jobs that require only a high school diploma AND years of work experience.

For instance, at Marshall's a college graduate could be hired as a store lead, but someone who worked at Marshall's for 3 or 4 years can get the same position. I feel those are the people who says school was a waste of time. They really thought they was going to get a vice president position when they graduated.
 

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Bachelors at a pretty good college.

Did the math, getting a Masters will put me in the hole appox $173,000 as far as actual cost and opportunity cost so Im going to skip that and bet on myself instead.
 

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I don't feel for them. I find a lot of those guys after graduation work retail or in the service industry @ jobs that require only a high school diploma AND years of work experience.

For instance, at Marshall's a college graduate could be hired as a store lead, but someone who worked at Marshall's for 3 or 4 years can get the same position. I feel those are the people who says school was a waste of time. They really thought they was going to get a vice president position when they graduated.

i wish people would stop using anecdotes and fictional scenarios

post up some stats or some studies

you think college graduates arent prepared? as opposed to what? you think high school graduates are better prepared for the work force
 

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Either the posters with 4-year and graduate degrees don't post nearly as much as those without, or schools are just giving out degrees regardless of intelligence. Or, of course, :duck:. I should have my BA in Economics in a little less than 2 weeks. Gonna see if I can get any statistical/financial/data analyst positions. If not, I'll weigh my options, I might go for an MBA or just an MA, if I can get into a reputable program. I don't think I give a shyt about law school.
 

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oh ok, thats what i thought, thanks for the anecdotes and fiction

We are not even talking about the same thing. You are taking about "preparation."

I'm talking about dead end jobs. Dead end jobs at retail or customer service for college graduates is a reality. I've met enough of them to know.
 

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We are not even talking about the same thing. You are taking about "preparation."

I'm talking about dead end jobs. Dead end jobs at retail or customer service for college graduates is a reality. I've met enough of them to know.

Oh so you're saying college doesn't prepare people for retail jobs, I see
 

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Oh so you're saying college doesn't prepare people for retail jobs, I see

No. I'm talking about people who have a bachelor's degree and can't find a decent job. They end up settling for a dead end job.

I read about someone who had a master's in public administration and is only an office manager. You figure with a master's degree you would be the head of a department or something.

Are you making me spoon feed you on purpose?
 
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