FreshFromATL
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Last. All I will say is...education with no skill is nearly worthless in the job market. Master a skill, or two, or three, combine it with the proper education, take control of your destiny. Simple 

damn bro I'd feel like either one of those degrees would be 6 years
aren't most engineering degrees a minimum of 5yrs? and you have two?
how'd you manage, and why/how did you combine the two?
What's the best party school... i feel like mine was. msu
Now I know why you thought college was worthless. You're a Spartan. Now I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Bachelors, Masters, Law. Now working to pay it off..lol Go Blue by the way. But as to the conversation about the worth of college. College gives back what you put in it. It's the Key to America. Now, some people may get lucky and get rich without it. But the odds are in the favor of those who go and graduate. I believe education is a lifelong pursuit and college is just part of it.
I agree. And not to mention, I meet my best friends and future business partners in college so it was well worth it to me.
This is exactly what I was saying, when people were getting all upset. I don't know where I stopped being a progressive for people to think I was speaking in absolutes. P.S. no one reads the longer post, like I said. Anyhow, did you go to U of M for all three...and why'd you need the masters...Bachelors, Masters, Law. Now working to pay it off..lol Go Blue by the way. But as to the conversation about the worth of college. College gives back what you put in it. It's the Key to America. Now, some people may get lucky and get rich without it. But the odds are in the favor of those who go and graduate. I believe education is a lifelong pursuit and college is just part of it.
This is exactly what I was saying, when people were getting all upset. I don't know where I stopped being a progressive for people to think I was speaking in absolutes. P.S. no one reads the longer post, like I said. Anyhow, did you go to U of M for all three...and why'd you need the masters...
Did you dual degree with the ford school
all the more reason college should be explained with a lot of qualifiers and honest talk about its limitations. the status quo is that college has been sold to everyone as the demarcation line for middle class careers. there is nothing implicit about GPA, major, or the ability to do free labor for experience after going into debt to get the degree.Might be true.
But I hate when the untalented and mediocre people knock college, I think the "college wasn't worth it" crowd are probably mostly underachievers who really don't have any potential.
P.S. no one reads the longer post, like I said.
allright, i must not really know your position. i will take the L on this.You're assuming wrong. Look at black king's post. Listen, I've talked about this subject more than anyone on this board. I figure that at this point people would know where my perspective is at. I figure that as a regular you would know where my stance is. . If you don't recall where I stand then I don't fault you for that, and then "I" made the wrong assumption.I just said in like 3 sentences what I've explained further in essay upon essay on here. Right now you're attributing to me what I'm known for arguing against. Not for nothing, but this is what I am most commonly @ into a thread for. You've been napping fam lol.
@VictorVonDoom You also know where I stand on these issues, so I don't know why you're running wild with those sentences ignoring the background of the person who said them and what they most likely mean. This isn't a new topic. This would be the equivalent of me reading @Liquid 's stance on jobs the other day and thinking that he was a die hard conservative because I didn't bring my prior knowledge of his stances to the table. Come on fellas.
on the topic of it being good to have large numbers of broke black people with student loan debt and weak job prospects...no. just no.
broke college grads have fewer children and later in life. they buy fewer cars and houses and later in life. if their outlook does not improve within 5 years of graduation, they will permanently earn less than even college grads that come later in better times.it is actually a toxic situation, and you dont want to add that on top of all the other crap that comes with being black in america. LOL, this literally sounds like a scheme created by someone who hates black people.
and even if you are concerned with culture, imagine the optics of black children growing up seeing scores of educated black losers who are less economically stable than black people who simply graduated from high school and learned a decent skill with training that cost far less than a degree in basket weaving from NYU. that could further damage the role of academics in our communities.