What's With this "New" Era of Sampling?

[Drip Bayless]

I've been noticing this trend over the past two years. I guess I'm becoming the same old head that I used to argue with on here. These new artists don't even try to sample anymore? These are straight up remixes, not samples! The "Wipe me Down" one is probably the most egregious since they even used the hook. None of these songs are better than the original that they remix, when I hear them it makes me just want to listen to the OG. Is TikTok responsible for this? How are these artists even making any money off these songs?

 

[THE 101]

Same shyt Diddy was doing in the 90s if we're gonna keep it 100

 

[Solomon Lurke]

You just getting old breh. You only noticing it cause it’s songs we grew up on and are dear to us and the memories we formed with these songs. It’s the same shxt that’s been going on though.

 

[Drip Bayless]

Same shyt Diddy was doing in the 90s if we're gonna keep it 100

Yeah this is all facts I ain't even gonna front, grand opening/grand closing
But them songs was bangers though, none of this shyt fukking with Mo Money Mo' Problems

 

[Drip Bayless]

You just getting old breh. You only noticing it cause it’s songs we grew up on and are dear to us and the memories we formed with these songs. It’s the same shxt that’s been going on though.

Yall right, I dont know how I fukked around and got man I aint even 30 yet

 

[tDames]

I've been noticing this trend over the past two years. I guess I'm becoming the same old head that I used to argue with on here. These new artists don't even try to sample anymore? These are straight up remixes, not samples! The "Wipe me Down" one is probably the most egregious since they even used the hook. None of these songs are better than the original that they remix, when I hear them it makes me just want to listen to the OG. Is TikTok responsible for this? How are these artists even making any money off these songs?

Stomp Stomp & Reincarnated is done like that purposely. Nice to see em paying homage too though. Im sure Soulja got bread from it too. The others are done pretty nicely. Its tracks from back in the day that do the same thing and sometimes they played cleaner more modern drums on top of a older beat to modernize it for the time. It just seems lazy because its basically effortlessly done now. You can click in beats instead of playing them with a drum pad. Old school example. This one uses a drum loop and they just eq'd and looped the melody and put some filters on it. Fire though right?

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Denzel sampled hard in the paint and I almost caught myself being flabby

 

[Solomon Lurke]

Denzel sampled hard in the paint and I almost caught myself being flabby

I mess with Denzel and kinda liked the slight flip until that Lazerdumb 6000 or whatever dude came on


His flow literally made me mad he ruined the song

 

[Solomon Lurke]

Yall right, I dont know how I fukked around and got man I aint even 30 yet

You need to still be out where these songs banging at and not talking to us heads breh

 

[Drip Bayless]

Denzel sampled hard in the paint and I almost caught myself being flabby

Man fukk yall man, got me feeling like Unc in this bytch
My hairline stronger than titanium, I'm still a young stunna

 

[Drip Bayless]

You need to still be out where these songs banging at and not talking to us heads breh

I cant even get jiggy in the club man, social media got the generations below me attention span's fried. They either playing them songs at 1.8x speed or they play the first verse and a hook and on to the next song

 

[Novembruh]

nikkas been making fanfiction music since the blog era.

Mixtapes got it started. 'lemme take your song and do my version'.
We shrugged it off because you couldn't get paid doing it - it was just for buzz and love of the game.
Then So Far Gone turned a mixtape using a bunch of other people's music into a commercial product.

Drake's career had been the most top tier 'i'mma take your song/style/flow/etc and do my version'...
until GloRilla showed up. And now she's outchea making fanfiction raps more popular than the originals.

The issue was, it got normalized. So this next generation grew up on it thinking it's what you do. Half these young folk also aren't trained in any music, so they're honestly incapable of making their own shyt. And the only schools that got music program money still the last 10+ years were suburban white schools. So now you have Trevors and Trents in the culture calling proper sampling 'unc shyt'.

Why bother chopping up a soul sample when you can just grab a Soulja Boy instrumental, roll up a wood, freestyle it and have it out before the night's over?

Rap stopped being art to these people and became a hustle.
So they treat it like a lick.

 

[re'up]

Damn, the Kendrick is wack as fukk to me. I don't listen to dude like that, that's such a technically accomplished record, but he sound Eminem doing a Pac impression.

There's a few reasons why, and more than I even understand:

1) The audience for those records doesn't know they are samples. There's an age gap, and a knowledge gap in the game, people don't listen to anything more than a few months/few years old. 22 year olds aren't listening to things from 2008, much less 1998.

2) The way these records are marketed is mostly through social media, which encourages nothing subtle. So, for those that do recognize the sample, it feels reassuring, it's comfortable, the power isn't in the craft/talent of the song it's in the messaging, which is it's familiarity.

3. The guardrails of the game are so changed, that there is no real pushback or music criticism anymore, besides social media, which tends to be shallow and fast moving. There was a time when XXL and The Source reviewed albums, and there was a feedback loop of sorts. That doesn't really exist anymore. If there are reviews, people aren't reading them, or giving a fukk.

4) Media has all changed. Where would people even hear these songs now? The older ones on their curated feeds? Not the radio and not TV.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It’s not even like sampling itself is was really meant to take off in the first place… You’re just accustomed to the versions you’re used to. Sampling is inherently awkward IMO.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Damn, the Kendrick is wack as fukk to me. I don't listen to dude like that, that's such a technically accomplished record, but he sound Eminem doing a Pac impression.

There's a few reasons why, and more than I even understand:

1) The audience for those records doesn't know they are samples. There's an age gap, and a knowledge gap in the game, people don't listen to anything more than a few months/few years old. 22 year olds aren't listening to things from 2008, much less 1998.

2) The way these records are marketed is mostly through social media, which encourages nothing subtle. So, for those that do recognize the sample, it feels reassuring, it's comfortable, the power isn't in the craft/talent of the song it's in the messaging, which is it's familiarity.

3. The guardrails of the game are so changed, that there is no real pushback or music criticism anymore, besides social media, which tends to be shallow and fast moving. There was a time when XXL and The Source reviewed albums, and there was a feedback loop of sorts. That doesn't really exist anymore. If there are reviews, people aren't reading them, or giving a fukk.

4) Media has all changed. Where would people even hear these songs now? The older ones on their curated feeds? Not the radio and not TV.

most of the media critics aren’t in the business of evaluating quality, they’re interested in developing brands that promote their opinions. These are not critics, they’re agenda driven fans.