What was up with my boo Fergie during her National Anthem performance at the NBA All Star game?

[brownsugah]

Beyonce just lacks feeling and emotion in her singing. I never said Beyonce' couldn't sing, I just said she lacks emotion and feeling in her singing.
She ain't got that umph that great singers like Aretha Franklin, Minnie Riperton, Whitney, Mariah, Toni, Anita, Patti, Chaka etc etc have/had.
Again as for Fergie, all I said was that she *can* sing, she just ain't great at it. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.
Fergie is just aight at best.

Beyoncé sings with a lot of emotion and passion especially live. you need to go YouTube some live performances. I’ll post them in here if you don’t wanna take the time out to do that. Sis really gives 110% and that’s what it should be about. I respect all of those legendary female artists you posted and they can sing their asses off too, but because Bey has come after them and sings pop more so than R&B as of now doesn’t make her any less talented.

 

[brownsugah]

Who else can’t sing? I’m curious.

 

[I love Latina women]

Now you’re saying you never said all of that, but you did say that ole girl could sing. I mean the writing is on the wall and there was a reason why it didn’t turn out well for her.

All of the guys in 112 could sing and lead. So there’s that. K-Ci and JoJo were the only two that sung. I actually prefer JoJo vocally to K-Ci, and honestly, their voices have not matured well and drugs ain’t help them neither. I would repost that video of them singing on Tom Joyner’s show as my example but it’s been posted and talked about enough so I will chill on that.

What? at the bolded
I said she can actually sing but she ain't great at it. Again, for the millionth time. lmao
The performance didn't turn out right cause her ass went out there to belt out notes like she was Patti Labelle. That ain't her range/lane at all.

Just because they shared lead vocals sometimes, don't mean whoever the said lead vocalist at that particular moment sounded good.
Individually, them nikkas vocals were not all that. Same with Fergie. Can they sing? Yes. But vocally, they weren't great.
Collectively as a group, singing together, 112 sounded good cause they were able to smooth out the edges when they harmonized and ad-libbed one another and they had well written/produced songs back in the day but vocally none of them nikkas was not seeing K-Ci and Jojo at all. Like at all. In no way. lol

As for your preference over JoJo over K-Ci, K-Ci and JoJo have different ranges and vocal tones.
I wasn't talking about K-Ci and JoJo's vocals today, I'm talking bout in their prime. In what world would it make sense to reference their voices today?
K-Ci and Jojo voices been gone for a LONG time.
As for their voices now, yeah, their voices ain't what they use to be cause of all them drugs.
When a nikka like Q or Daron have sung lead, it's never sounded like all that.

 

[I love Latina women]

Beyoncé sings with a lot of emotion and passion especially live. you need to go YouTube some live performances. I’ll post them in here if you don’t wanna take the time out to do that. Sis really gives 110% and that’s what it should be about. I respect all of those legendary female artists you posted and they can sing their asses off too, but because Bey has come after them and sings pop more so than R&B as of now doesn’t make her any less talented.

I'd seen a lot of her live performances.
A few of the ladies in my family like her and have shown me plenty of her live performances.
shyt, I've seen her when she on award shows when she performs live on tv.
I respect Beyonce' cause she works her ass off and it takes a lot of hard work to be an artist, I just don't think vocally she's all that.
When it comes to her singing, again, I just don't *feel* it like I feel Whitney, Aretha, Mariah, Toni, Anita, Minnie Riperton, Chaka....
Beyonce lacks that natural umph and grit that comes with passionate singing and feeling in songs.

 

[brownsugah]

LMAO. Hold on...

 

[bordeaux]

Wasn't bad. Props on trying something different w/ a song we've all heard a thousand times. And yea, she looks great.

 

[No Hook]

I don't know if she back on meth but she might be on something. When she was on the breakfast club she was real fidgety. She said she used to see random butterlies and bees when she was on meth so maybe she saw Marvin and tried imitate him

 

[brownsugah]

 

[I love Latina women]

 

[brownsugah]

What? at the bolded
I said she can actually sing but she ain't great at it. Again, for the millionth time. lmao
The performance didn't turn out right cause her ass went out there to belt out notes like she was Patti Labelle. That ain't her range/lane at all.

You still said she can sing so there's that.

And What range does she have tbh? What technique does she have? or is that infatuation talking?

Collectively as a group, singing together, 112 sounded good cause they were able to smooth out the edges when they harmonized and ad-libbed one another and they had well written/produced songs back in the day but vocally none of them nikkas was not seeing K-Ci and Jojo at all. Like at all. In no way. lol

At the bolded... That's apart of being great vocally. It's not just about range and being a great lead singer, it's also about harmonizing and having a good ear for music which 112 has better than K-Ci and JoJo. Anyone that can harmonize and sound good in unison with other people, in addition to being good solo can sing. And 112 possesses those qualities better than K-Ci and JoJo.

As for your preference over JoJo over K-Ci, K-Ci and JoJo have different ranges and vocal tones.
I wasn't talking about K-Ci and JoJo's vocals today, I'm talking bout in their prime. In what world would it make sense to reference their voices today?
K-Ci and Jojo voices been gone for a LONG time.
As for their voices now, yeah, their voices ain't what they use to be cause of all them drugs.
When a nikka like Q or Daron have sung lead, it's never sounded like all that.

K-Ci sung with more heart and emotion than JoJo, but I prefer JoJo's more subtle tone and harmony over K-Ci. Honestly they're not as vocally pleasing to me on the ears as Daron and Q.

But about my point of their voices being gone, being a great vocalist is also about knowing how to preserve your voice too and K-Ci and JoJo haven't really done a great job at that. So being on drugs doesn't make them look good imo.

 

[brownsugah]

I'd seen a lot of her live performances.
A few of the ladies in my family like her and have shown me plenty of her live performances.
shyt, I've seen her when she on award shows when she performs live on tv.
I respect Beyonce' cause she works her ass off and it takes a lot of hard work to be an artist, I just don't think vocally she's all that.
When it comes to her singing, again, I just don't *feel* it like I feel Whitney, Aretha, Mariah, Toni, Anita, Minnie Riperton, Chaka....
Beyonce lacks that natural umph and grit that comes with passionate singing and feeling in songs.

lol What songs are not passionate from a vocal perspective in your opinion? I have a couple in mind that are. You can post some live performances too.

 

[I love Latina women]

You still said she can sing so there's that.

And What range does she have tbh? What technique does she have? or is that infatuation talking?

At the bolded... That's apart of being great vocally. It's not just about range and being a great lead singer, it's also about harmonizing and having a good ear for music which 112 has better than K-Ci and JoJo. Anyone that can harmonize and sound good in unison with other people, in addition to being good solo can sing. And 112 possesses those qualities better than K-Ci and JoJo.


K-Ci sung with more heart and emotion than JoJo, but I prefer JoJo's more subtle tone and harmony over K-Ci.

But about my point of their voices being gone, being a great vocalist is also about knowing how to preserve your voice too and K-Ci and JoJo haven't really done a great job at that. So being on drugs doesn't make them look good imo.

lol What songs are not passionate from a vocal perspective in your opinion? I have a couple in mind that are. You can post some live performances too.

Yeah, technically she *can* sing. She has the ability to sing. She's not a great singer at all tho.
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying when I say she *can* sing and somehow think I'm saying she's a great singer or something.
But whatever, we've gone back and forth enough. Either u get it or u don't.
As for her range, whatever range she sings in when she sings "Clumsy", "Glamorous". Her vocals are on some Contralto type range.
Again, she ain't a great singer. Average at best

As for 112, those guys are average.
Sure they've all sung lead from time to time, but just because u sing lead don't automatically make u a great singer.
Just like Fergie singing the National Anthem, just cause she sung it don't mean she a great singer and clearly she's not.
Bottom line when it comes to 112 vs. Jodeci, has never sounded better than Jodeci, period.
Q, Slim, Daron and Mike's vocals were nowhere near as great as K-Ci and JoJo's when they were in Jodeci.
I wasn't comparing 112 and Jodeci now past their primes, I'm talking bout when they were in their primes.
It's pointless to compare them now.
Both K-Ci and JoJo sung with a lot of emotion. Just different ranges and vocal tones. But both them nikkas poured their hearts out on songs back in the day.
K-Ci and JoJo were on drugs, so being great vocalists took the back seat for them once their addictions took over.
Their voices are gone because of drugs and because they couldn't over come their addictions in time to save their voices.

It's not really a song in particular, it's the way Beyonce' sounds when she's singing.
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but she just doesn't bring it w/ that emotion, natural passion and feeling vocally.

 

[brownsugah]

Yeah, technically she *can* sing. She has the ability to sing. She's not a great singer at all tho.
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying when I say she *can* sing and somehow think I'm saying she's a great singer or something.
But whatever, we've gone back and forth enough. Either u get it or u don't.
As for her range, whatever range she sings in when she sings "Clumsy", "Glamorous". Her vocals are on some Contralto type range.
Again, she ain't a great singer. Average at best

As for 112, those guys are average.
Sure they've all sung lead from time to time, but just because u sing lead don't automatically make u a great singer.
Just like Fergie singing the National Anthem, just cause she sung it don't mean she a great singer and clearly she's not.
Bottom line when it comes to 112 vs. Jodeci, has never sounded better than Jodeci, period.
Q, Slim, Daron and Mike's vocals were nowhere near as great as K-Ci and JoJo's when they were in Jodeci.
I wasn't comparing 112 and Jodeci now past their primes, I'm talking bout when they were in their primes.
It's pointless to compare them now.
Both K-Ci and JoJo sung with a lot of emotion. Just different ranges and vocal tones. But both them nikkas poured their hearts out on songs back in the day.
K-Ci and JoJo were on drugs, so being great vocalists took the back seat for them once their addictions took over.
Their voices are gone because of drugs and because they couldn't over come their addictions in time to save their voices.

It's not really a song in particular, it's the way Beyonce' sounds when she's singing.
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but she just doesn't bring it w/ that emotion, natural passion and feeling vocally.

@ the bolded “Technically she can sing” yet “she’s not a a great singer”. If someone is not a great singer, then technically they can’t sing. That’s what I’m trying to get across. But somehow being average is good enough for someone who preaches about loving talent and people who can sing.

Also, LIKE I SAID... having the ability to sing lead PLUS having other qualities like an ear for music and harmonies does define being a great singer. Not just range and the ability to lead. I feel like Daron and Q did that better than K-Ci and JoJo...and they still can sing until the former.

and I mean you said this was a forum and that it was ok to compare Bey and Faith Evans who totally have nothing in common.. and you mentioned how Jodeci were better first so I was just responding to what you put out there. So honestly since it’s cool to compare now, being past prime is not exempt from that.

You saying that she doesn’t show emotion yet you can’t even show me your examples. This really ain’t going anywhere. I’m tired.

 

[I love Latina women]

@ the bolded “Technically she can sing” yet “she’s not a a great singer”. If someone is not a great singer, then technically they can’t sing. That’s what I’m trying to get across. But somehow being average is good enough for someone who preaches about loving talent and people who can sing.

Also, LIKE I SAID... having the ability to sing lead PLUS having other qualities like an ear for music and harmonies does define being a great singer. Not just range and the ability to lead. I feel like Daron and Q did that better than K-Ci and JoJo...and they still can sing until the former.

and I mean you said this was a forum and that it was ok to compare Bey and Faith Evans who totally have nothing in common.. and you mentioned how Jodeci were better first so I was just responding to what you put out there. So honestly since it’s cool to compare now, being past prime is not exempt from that.

You saying that she doesn’t show emotion yet you can’t even show me your examples. This really ain’t going anywhere. I’m tired.

We gon agree to disagree cause this done got old now.

 

[Columbo]

Lets turn a negative into a positive, how about we get some pics of Fergie and turn this into an appreciation thread