What Stopped Bone Thugs Being on the Same Level as Wu Tang was..

[mobbinfms]

Let's just add irrelevant rappers and throw them in the mix to this conversation
You wu stans are the worst.

Hammer is irrelevant?
@StillNotSoft

 

[itsyoung!!]

Bone way bigger and more known than Wu Tang.. Wu Tang some forum popular shyt.. Its like saying J Cole needs to get on the level of Big Sean.. you see Big Sean every where but J Cole sells way more.. would you say J Cole needs to get on Big sean level? Never

J cole, like Bone, just dont really need/want to be in the spot light like that but they have dedicated fan bases

 

[KravenMorehead™]

2. Majority of people didn't really know what the fukk they was spitting. You could argue that Wu Tang were on that same vibe in terms of lyrics you could grasp, but at least the lyrics were audible, from there you could do your own research on what they was spitting.

Now dont get me wrong BTNH are still top 5 all time hip hop groups and I will still blast alot of their shyt to this day but lets be real, no one is checking for most of their discography. I understand and recognise that their flows and the way they harmonized various vocals was fly as fukk but lets be real, they were talking unoriginal lyrics with an unorthodox flow and most dudes cant quote their lyrics for shyt, maybe a line or two but apart from that ... not memorable lyrics.

I think it's cause they didn't focus on catchiness and broad appeal. Wu Tang had memorable choruses. Take the chorus away from C.R.E.A.M. and "wu tang clan ain't nothin ta fukk with" and they'd probably be boot camp clik status popularity wise.

I don't think lyrical incoherence is a factor. Cause Michael Jackson for example is number 1 artist of all time to alot of people, and damn near 90% of his fanbase couldn't tell you his lyrics. They just went by the feeling of the song. People just dig in to lyrics when it goes with the song whose vibe they already fell in love with. Which goes with your first point:

1. The majority of their beats were corny and soft as shyt. Like the type of beats that they would throw on a 1990's movie to depict a hip hop beat.

Also, their vocal melodies became stale, the novelty wore off and they didn't switch it up so people got used to it and then moved on...

 

[Apollo Creed]

Memphis Stopped them

 

[itsyoung!!]

Bone way bigger and more known than Wu Tang.. Wu Tang some forum popular shyt.. Its like saying J Cole needs to get on the level of Big Sean.. you see Big Sean every where but J Cole sells way more.. would you say J Cole needs to get on Big sean level? Never

J cole, like Bone, just dont really need/want to be in the spot light like that but they have dedicated fan bases

 

[Zero]

It's only so long gimmick rappers can pretend

Stans can't even recite their lyrics.....group members can't even recite their lyrics

 

[Zero]

Biggest song was glorifying living on goverment assistance and you nikkas ate it up like free cheese

 

[MexicanKingpin]

Biggest song was glorifying living on goverment assistance and you nikkas ate it up like free cheese

when that beat starts

 

[SirBiatch]

at bigwackbossup having the very first response in this thread. It's like dude has an alert for anything Bone Thugs + legendary East Coast act

anyway, I liked Bone back in the day. Owned an album. They were pop rap who weren't all that great and now it's :vincecarter: It's that simple.

When the smoke clears, no one cares what you sold and what your 'run' was. It's your catalogue that'll speak for itself. and Bone's catalog compared to Wu's is

And idiots who say Bone is bigger than Wu On what planet? RZA, Mef in Hollywood, Ghost is being trolled by millionaires and senators are using Wu for cred (see Marco Rubio, and other randoms). Meanwhile, Bizzy somewhere reminiscing on the time Biggie ate his entire crew.

 

[H. Selassie]

@ this thread premise being dispelled in the 2nd post. Thst was a quick backfire.

 

[DaveyDave]

back then, Bone was bigger and worldwide you could argue Bone is still bigger as a group. Wu has classic solo albums and people have their fav Wu member which they will buy solo joints from. Bone has crazy stans who buy all their group stuff AND they buy ALL the solo albums, all the underground shytty beat having no name records joints, they will have a fav BTNH member but still cop all the albums. you don't see Ghost & Rae fans buying U God albums just because he's a part of Wu.

Eazy dying, Tomika fukking them and Ruthless imploding was what really killed them. and the beats changed from E 1999 to AOW as well, there's just something different even though U-Neek is still behind the boards for the most part.

 

[mobbinfms]

at bigwackbossup having the very first response in this thread. It's like dude has an alert for anything Bone Thugs + legendary East Coast act

anyway, I liked Bone back in the day. Owned an album. They were pop rap who weren't all that great and now it's :vincecarter: It's that simple.

When the smoke clears, no one cares what you sold and what your 'run' was. It's your catalogue that'll speak for itself. and Bone's catalog compared to Wu's is

And idiots who say Bone is bigger than Wu On what planet? RZA, Mef in Hollywood, Ghost is being trolled by millionaires and senators are using Wu for cred (see Marco Rubio, and other randoms). Meanwhile, Bizzy somewhere reminiscing on the time Biggie ate his entire crew.

How was Bone pop rap?

 

[mobbinfms]

back then, Bone was bigger and worldwide you could argue Bone is still bigger as a group. Wu has classic solo albums and people have their fav Wu member which they will buy solo joints from. Bone has crazy stans who buy all their group stuff AND they buy ALL the solo albums, all the underground shytty beat having no name records joints, they will have a fav BTNH member but still cop all the albums. you don't see Ghost & Rae fans buying U God albums just because he's a part of Wu.

Eazy dying, Tomika fukking them and Ruthless imploding was what really killed them. and the beats changed from E 1999 to AOW as well, there's just something different even though U-Neek is still behind the boards for the most part.

What's the argument for Bone being bigger worldwide now?

 

[DaveyDave]

What's the argument for Bone being bigger worldwide now?

they have more stans that listen to ALL their shyt. Wu fans are broken up into many factions, whereas Bone has more fans overall that just cop everything they drop no matter what and they act like it's the best shyt ever. I'd guess that Bone isn't that big in America these days but world wide i think they are probably still bigger than Wu as a group

 

[Still Benefited]

Hammer is irrelevant?
@StillNotSoft

This is one shameful thread I didn't want to be a part of....OP tellin a bald face lie with a straight face and people cosigning it....the hell you mean "was" OP? Bone WAS bigger than Wutang without a shadow of a doubt and arguable still is,pretty sure they last group album sold more than Bones...Not the one they had to sell to a evil cac because they couldn't get fans to fund it,but the one before that....Lets not overstate how big they are in comparsion to Bone right now.

Only difference is them nikkas cater to hippity hop heads and back packers,and Bone Thugs don',its simple mathematics....Wu has a loyal cult following,but don't sleep on Bones loyal following....The only thing that seperates the two is that firstly one is from NY...SO they obviously get the benefit of the east coast media who was writing the history books for majority of hiphops existence....Lets just say theres a lot of innacuracies in that book that WILL be rewritten in due time.

and secondly,they appeal to the backpack crowd...Backpack crowd is strong not only on the internet,but theres a heavy demographic for that in every city and every country....So as loyal as Bone Thugs fans might be,you not gon find them concentrated in every city everywhere...It would make more sense to have Bone open in many places to give the backpackers who will actually come out to see nikkas who they want to see

Don't ever get it twisted talking bout Wu was bigger than Bone though.

and comparing Hammer to Bone?that was a reach